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From: Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com>
To: Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Standardize #+BIBLIOGRAPHY line
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 15:31:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874nbm67rq.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ip02wx96.fsf@gmail.com> (Jambunathan K.'s message of "Mon, 22 Jul 2013 18:46:21 +0530")

Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> writes:

> Getting Citation right to cater to general needs is going to be complex.
> This is mainly because 
>
>     1. Org's object syntax is very rudimentary and not "extensible" 
>     2. "real-world" citations may need some annotations page number etc.
>
> I think it is good to *atleast make a move* in standardizing the cite
> elements.  My gut feeling is that cite objects - for now - should be
> coded as \cite { } latex objects.  This specifically means that link
> syntax for cite should NOT BE ENCOURAGED (or STRONGLY DISCOURAGED).

I understand. You can still use ox-bibtex.el for now, and just ignore
all the "[[cite:...]]" part.

> As an aside, I am inclined to think of cite objects as "special class"
> of "footnote" elements.

I tend to agree. There was a discussion on the ML about a possible
syntax. I think it is a bit early to set it in stone anyway. As you
said, the point here is to make a move towards standardization, even if
it means using \cite{...} and `defadvice' for now.

> Does the author have copyright assignments for contributing to Emacs?
>
>         Taru Karttunen <taruti@taruti.net>
>
> As a personal policy, I don't want to touch a file which wouldn't end up
> in Emacs proper.  
>
> Any changes that I make to Emacs - that includes Org-mode - is
> *guaranteed* to end up in Emacs proper.  It's going to happen in it's
> own time.

Nobody can guarantee that code relative to bibliographies will become
mainstream. What if normalization fails, for one reason or another?

Anyway, I don't think assignment is a problem. If we decide to handle
bibliographies in Org core, ox-bibtex will have to be rewritten anyway
(and will become ox-bibliography or something like that). Though, it
would obviously be best if original "org-bibtex.el" author (Cc'ed) had
already signed FSF papers.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-07-22 13:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-22  7:25 Standardize #+BIBLIOGRAPHY line Jambunathan K
2013-07-22  9:03 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-07-22 13:16   ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-22 13:19     ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-22 13:31     ` Nicolas Goaziou [this message]
2013-07-22 13:47       ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-22 13:58         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-07-22 16:09           ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-22 19:33           ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-22 14:15       ` Rasmus
2013-07-22 16:29         ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-22 21:51           ` Rasmus
2013-07-25  8:47             ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-22 17:01         ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-22 19:34           ` Jambunathan K

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