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[97.126.68.82]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t17sm11334728pfg.169.2020.11.01.17.17.19 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 01 Nov 2020 17:17:19 -0800 (PST) References: User-agent: mu4e 1.4.3; emacs 27.1 From: Ken Mankoff To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: Thoughts on the standardization of Org In-reply-to: Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2020 17:17:19 -0800 Message-ID: <874km8d0bk.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::52f; envelope-from=mankoff@gmail.com; helo=mail-pg1-x52f.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=fF0KRHw8; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.21 X-TUID: YCgivtNnHLnb To all who argue that Org is too tightly coupled to Emacs to consider working with it outside of Emacs, I point to GitHub. The fact that GitHub natively renders Org files "well enough" is a huge benefit to those of us who use Org. It is also useful for gaining new users (assuming more users is a good thing). Therefore, if other tools have the ability to do *something* with an Org file (display most of it well enough, allow editing without breaking things, maybe implementing a simple Babel interpreter for a few popular languages, whatever), this would be A Good Thing. For example, I'd contribute more to Stack Exchange sites if I could answer using Org syntax rather than Markdown syntax. None of these 3rd party implementations need to be comprehensive or perfect, just as the GitHub renderer is neither complete nor perfect. But we all benefit from the GitHub rendering. -k.