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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Bruce D'Arcus , autofrettage , "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1633340331; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=YNQD/Xgpkak9ITU1LSqWB0VQ6K5cwIZMhTNMoipLsXs=; b=h1qq9x6SORZg9jUZj+0MDwz5eU9eh+r4Kpp7Dfe7W39/lOGDc0PeIwjVPTpZXeaNR9lGhY yBc/hbHIApVccceivlFYrYKuNmeJs+I31oN5/GQGo49dsbu6WBoRHW/dRCgjqOg5dbfvaQ UMhcNguLNqcTU5kmycnd4t023/kyIvDNVy+9dYwNKl3UoraOx6aQ6N8ccI6zs3YSQlffUo rmfla8n42DFobzQqpSeOG6fAjjg3JGXLgmP2rsSYNLFqxtA11GKrrGsZ3mrvFrvVAbnUsA vR1YwXWZ5Z/GXmWCLYwstn9dIGGIb4lQ9MUcsuAuHdP/C3VXsF2rSAcTZ8eFYg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1633340331; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Ng/C3bLdqTalxnLAo+ABx/y7vwcodlrbTDVEAZ8fS6+0Yq53V7xiDWR5GYySqzI558Ddm/ okulU8arxDOYTiMSjPqYnND2RzDqD5qbKShXrgnM1mI9ggWkTCZ0WCMUea4jMJ8ZhmecnI Tw3Aam8TxZyyUl/WD8ps9YWWmV+UrTLejAR2ZBBnPVbgxM2qtLeeVQGIZ1TtBJTwdrv98/ 0LmRblCgL2dErcsVCwZncjwPdlfG7rinTDx5GbNf0brqjSoaN9tZgKFgioWaiIZj6JjRq9 muoCEd8z4MfLvzmb9h/1Ef5PThENn3u1/+uvX60kI8v2lpYR+/mBt3+aTVJNQg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=yandex.com header.s=mail header.b=nEDNjD15; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.31 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=yandex.com header.s=mail header.b=nEDNjD15; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=yandex.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 2BC852C57F X-Spam-Score: -1.31 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: aJ6TqgQI9pwh >>>>> Nicolas Goaziou writes: > Hello, Colin Baxter writes: >>>>>>> Bruce D'Arcus writes: >> > You have to load oc-biblatex, say using use-package, and also >> set > org-cite-export-processors, like: >> >> > (setq org-cite-export-processors '((latex biblatex) (t csl))) >> >> Great, but what about old timers like me who insist on using >> bibtex? > What do you mean by "using bibtex"? In particular, what package, > if any, do you use to actually cite something? I don't understand the question. 1. In LaTeX I simply use \bibliography, \cite and the command "bibtex". 2. In org-mode, I use ol-bibtex and reftex-cite. Works well, although I only use org-mode occasionally for notes. I change [[bib:ref]] to [[cite:ref]] automatically. > Do you limit > yourself to the built-in "\cite" and "\nocite" commands? I only use \cite. Qualifications, such as page numbers, etc, I insert as normal text about the citation, or as a footnote. I like to keep things simple, which is one reason I don't use biblatex - and I can't be bothered to learn it. Best wishes, Colin Baxter.