From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id sL04Jzo1jGEbLgAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 10 Nov 2021 22:10:18 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id oOWxIjo1jGGjYgAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 10 Nov 2021 21:10:18 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ECC58AC79 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 2021 22:10:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1]:55592 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mkurH-0002IY-Su for larch@yhetil.org; Wed, 10 Nov 2021 16:10:15 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35820) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mkuqi-0002II-7O for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Nov 2021 16:09:40 -0500 Received: from outbound.soverin.net ([116.202.65.215]:50037) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mkuqg-00027O-G0 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Nov 2021 16:09:39 -0500 Received: from smtp.soverin.net (unknown [10.10.3.24]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by outbound.soverin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E6ED605F3; Wed, 10 Nov 2021 21:09:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.soverin.net (smtp.soverin.net [159.69.232.138]) by soverin.net From: Noboru Ota To: Ihor Radchenko Subject: Re: Introducing Org-transclusion In-Reply-To: <87zgqed6to.fsf@localhost> References: <87fssispc2.fsf@nobiot.com> <87h7cysjf2.fsf@localhost> <87sfwgme9s.fsf@nobiot.com> <87v91c9fgu.fsf@localhost> <87r1btk1j7.fsf@nobiot.com> <87zgqed6to.fsf@localhost> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2021 22:09:22 +0100 Message-ID: <874k8j3egt.fsf@nobiot.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.65.215; envelope-from=me@nobiot.com; helo=outbound.soverin.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1636578618; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=U19hok7nFEqPXClNNb1SjKuHZBGeNOEOUnvdfb9wgf4=; b=eRuZyazsEzZLIN8hB9I0ySe0bGhIAVO4y3yVVNaJq6g8zDuKUl/6vF31UsP5ZbWgSs2C/S l7tVTix7bjcvXiowQvE17nlCCvN6zUh3UY2TlMN7mYmomVKY/VfZdQGOF5q+HX68yd2zdw Ag40g3JKqxmPUtNuohIYPRzSYqc22bQ7ur4E9IbTMgJKJK3Ri8awC+8NR5+hvoa1qJsFbk wQi4YY2CV2fZ4S5kMUqhEQodYQ6dyU/AZ0oqRjUMFdk+AEF7d7OIzgnAuUTdJ3ODjLnGHk i5Ygzb1FH7YBxC4JGM2SrCFcJKb+3eai46JKb1028kLjMqZ9a/014V9aBEEvEg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1636578618; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Wu6pyBBbUUcavYpfy9NQ3qqbWoGfGV76V5yim4Mrkta3Bzu+SeAfHijjZUqsl9wdR9GkVg /eoxm9IeG6Tuioko64UscwdM7JGV6FVI5fHRLhik/5QzlYage9RAHfzEU/INvPTYbn5EDN gELsecGWTHt7ncq8jEVnTuNxksvmsDHzSrBuiXRS4hLcYvWs6AmqjXq2rOMPgEg6kAxWot k09gl4r6i9l+9i8njZRT0v9jU0d5rwkL/tlZxRfgPpu2MNlPK0zwcSTHlvjfRyFBzCoRSf f5fWT2otjDkpFuziTvwyQWOR016aaH6PkP3+scClWSHSMXYLO9D3j1+75m2XXQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.02 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: ECC58AC79 X-Spam-Score: -3.02 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: Ns8WfNg98fzZ Ihor Radchenko writes: > Try to open the attached file and run M-x org-transclusion-add-all Thank you. I see. Not even org-transclusion-add-all but a single add function takes a bit of time. If I may ask some questions and for some advice: 1. I see it as an issue rather of recursive transclusions (transclusions inside a transclusion) than of overlay. Do you agree? 2. If it is a recursion, I would like to somehow avoid it altogether by "skipping it" before going into a loop. I thought I had done part of it; apparently, it's not enough. Do you have some suggestions how other programs might deal with this type of issues? I feel that many pieces of software have done so... 3. If it is an overlay issue, do you have suggestions what sort of methods are available within Emacs? 4. This file does not seem realistic for me as a user who use Emacs for writing -- but I see this sort of testing can be useful for avoiding potential issues. How important do you think it is to tackle this type of "hypothetical" issues as a package developer? It's a question of priority for me. I do not feel that I have sufficient knowledge and skill set to tackle it right now; if the priority is not so high, I think I would leave it (for now, but this "for now" would be for a long time). If priority is high, I would need to ask for some help with even framing the problem so that we can somehow tackle it. Thank you. Noboru