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From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>
To: Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com>
Cc: Bastien Guerry <bzg@gnu.org>,  emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [BUG] worg-setup.org is outdated
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2022 09:37:08 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874k0om3ej.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o7yw11h8.fsf@gmail.com>

Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com> writes:

>> I suspect that the real reason is lack of experience with CSS and JS.
>> Also, we don't really want a high entry barrier for contributors (but
>> then, again, we haven't had many contributors to WORG html side over the
>> years anyway, AFAIK).
>
> I actually think a basic framework, such as Bulma or Tailwind, would
> lower the barrier. CSS is possibly the most challenging part of doing
> decent web pages - especially if you want responsive pages which work
> well on large and small screens and with respect to accessibility. 
> ....
> These frameworks are easy to learn - far easier than learning CSS.
> Anyone who knows CSS will have no problem using them and anyone who
> doesn't will find using the framework much easier than having to learn
> 'raw' CSS, which has some pretty narly dark corners which take
> considerable effort to master. 

Then, it sounds like a good path forward.

>> AFAIK, worg is very simple. We just rely on ox-html to produce output
>> and then publish a static website. That's it.
>>
>
> The thing about a static web site is that it needs good navigation to
> make it useable and easy to explore (which I think is critical with
> something like worg). To achieve that, there needs to be some
> 'knowledge' about the pages and their relationship to each other - it
> isn't quite as simple as just having a lot of static pages on a server. 

Agree. WORG navigation is not ideal (to say the least).
Note that we can leverage index functionality of ox-publish. See
https://orgmode.org/manual/Site-map.html#Site-map
and
https://orgmode.org/manual/Generating-an-index.html

Also, you may find https://github.com/oyvindstegard/ox-tagfilter-js
useful.

> First step is to get a working local copy so that I have something to
> work with. AFter that and a bit of exploring, I should have a better
> understanding and idea how to go forward. 

Last time I tried to achive this, I had to tweak the css paths a bit,
edited paths in publish scirpt, and got everything working locally.
(without running server)

Best,
Ihor



  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-14  1:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-08 21:51 [accessibility] worg obscures text Samuel Wales
2022-06-12 19:35 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2022-06-13  0:22 ` Tim Cross
2022-06-13  0:34   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-13  2:16     ` Tim Cross
2022-06-13  5:30       ` [BUG] worg-setup.org is outdated (was: [accessibility] worg obscures text) Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-13  5:44         ` Tim Cross
2022-06-13  6:14           ` Timothy
2022-06-13 14:21           ` [BUG] worg-setup.org is outdated Bastien Guerry
2022-06-13 14:21         ` Bastien Guerry
2022-06-13 22:32           ` Tim Cross
2022-06-14  0:57             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-14  1:08               ` Tim Cross
2022-06-14  1:37                 ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2022-06-14  1:51                   ` Tim Cross
2022-06-14  2:18                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-14  2:46                       ` Tim Cross
2022-06-14  2:59                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-02 10:40                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-02 20:03                   ` Tim Cross
2023-01-03 11:01                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-04 10:21                     ` [TASK] Enhance Worg HTML styling (was: [BUG] worg-setup.org is outdated) Bastien Guerry
2023-01-04 10:50                       ` Alain.Cochard
2023-01-04 22:43                         ` Tim Cross
2023-01-05 14:07                           ` Alain.Cochard
2023-01-05 15:41                             ` Tim Cross
2023-01-05 20:18                               ` [TASK] Enhance Worg HTML styling Leo Butler
2023-01-06  1:23                                 ` Tim Cross
2022-06-13  5:37       ` [accessibility] worg obscures text Max Nikulin
2022-06-16  3:22 ` Tim Cross
2022-06-16 23:30   ` Samuel Wales

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