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Summary: I vote, very late, for the inclusion of ob-asymptote.el into Org. In my opinion, Asymptote is far too valuable a tool to be excluded by default. Long version: Either me or my system have been sleeping for quite a while, because just today I woke up to the fact that ob-asymptote.el has been moved out of Org and into org-contrib. According to org-contrib, this means that Files in this repository receive little if no maintainance and there is no guarantee that they are compatible with the Org stable version. Not only is this a poor situation for me personally, but I also think it is a bad decision for Org. I have been using the combination of Org and Asymptote for all my work stuff for a long time now. The combo is simply _superior_. I do not need to talk about Org, and will focus on Asymptote only. Asymptote is a _brilliant__ tool for drawing all sorts of (scientific) diagrams, be those 2D or 3D (click on menu on left to view different galleries): https://asymptote.sourceforge.io/gallery/ Asymptote has been a stable programming language for quite a while: https://asymptote.sourceforge.io/ It is being actively maintained and upgraded. If ob-asymptote.el is kept external to Org, future users will have a much higher threshold to use this combination. I would like ob-asymptote.el to be brought back. If there is something I can do to help, I will be glad to do so. All the best, Jarmo