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From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION, default settings] Using mailcap as default handler for opening file links
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2024 12:36:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874jedoo4d.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <t7kt63$12q4$1@ciao.gmane.io>

Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> writes:

> On 04/06/2022 20:42, Ihor Radchenko wrote:
>> 
>> It appears that using mailcap is giving us more trouble than benefits.
>> I am not sure about the situation on Windows and Mac though.
>> 
>> Should we change the default file handlers to Emacs globally (unless
>> user customizes otherwise)? Should we continue efforts to work around
>> mailcap issues? Maybe there is yet another alternative generic way to
>> open files?
>
> ...
> I believe, there are enough issues with mailcap implementation in Emacs, 
> but do we have some alternative? There is no support of queries to 
> mimeapps.list files in Emacs (XDG). Like Chrome it is possible to call 
> xdg-open for any type that can not be handled internally. Maybe it 
> possible to leave it in Org as is or with the patch to call "file" 
> utility (after some fixes).

I have been digging more on this issue recently, and I have found that
Carsten once attempted to tweak this default to use xdg-mime:

https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git/commit/?id=15ae89b39

Use `xdg-open' to open files where available
* lisp/org.el (org-file-apps-defaults-gnu): Use `xdg-open' to open files
  where available.

 (defconst org-file-apps-defaults-gnu
-  '((remote . emacs)
-    (system . mailcap)
-    (t . mailcap))
+  (append
+   '((remote . emacs))
+   (if (executable-find "xdg-open")
+       '((system . "xdg-open %s")
+	 (t . "xdg-open %s"))
+     '((system . mailcap)
+       (t . mailcap))))

However, that commit had been reverted because xdg-open did not work for
some users, "failing silently":
https://list.orgmode.org/CAN_Dec8n=yNTto6Uh0dN50fG_HbqHFQtmYOCchH7wsyJdm3_Gg@mail.gmail.com/

I believe that xdg-open issue has been fixed by you in
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git/commit/?id=5db61eb0f
org.el: Avoid xdg-open silent failure

So, it may be safe to re-apply that Carsten's commit now.

WDYT?

-- 
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-02-12 12:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-15 16:49 Bug in 9.5.3 org--file-default-apps Craig STCR
2022-05-16  4:53 ` Ihor Radchenko
     [not found]   ` <6615610d-93ae-171f-b554-3f4cc79354cc@gmail.com>
2022-05-16  8:33     ` Ihor Radchenko
     [not found]       ` <86692975-4d5f-6933-3227-c6b208f76862@gmail.com>
2022-05-16 11:57         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-05-16 15:14           ` Max Nikulin
2022-05-16 19:15             ` Craig STCR
2022-05-16 19:29             ` Craig STCR
2022-05-17 16:03               ` Max Nikulin
2022-05-18 11:36             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-05-18 16:10               ` Max Nikulin
2022-05-19 13:39                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-05-19 14:45                   ` Max Nikulin
2022-05-20  8:22                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-05-20 11:31                       ` Max Nikulin
2022-05-21  1:44                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-05-21 14:56                           ` Max Nikulin
2022-05-22  4:10                             ` [PATCH] " Ihor Radchenko
2022-05-22  7:40                               ` Max Nikulin
2022-05-26  4:23                                 ` [PATCH v2] " Ihor Radchenko
2022-05-29  6:07                                   ` Max Nikulin
2022-05-30 14:00                                     ` [PATCH v3] " Ihor Radchenko
2022-05-30 15:38                                       ` Max Nikulin
2022-05-31 15:07                                         ` Max Nikulin
2022-06-04 13:42                                         ` [DISCUSSION, default settings] Using mailcap as default handler for opening file links (was: [PATCH v3] Re: Bug in 9.5.3 org--file-default-apps) Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-04 17:01                                           ` Greg Minshall
2022-06-06 12:50                                           ` [DISCUSSION, default settings] Using mailcap as default handler for opening file links Max Nikulin
2022-06-06 15:22                                             ` Max Nikulin
2022-06-06 17:47                                             ` Bhavin Gandhi
2022-06-10 16:38                                               ` Max Nikulin
2024-02-12 12:36                                             ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2024-02-13 10:59                                               ` Max Nikulin
2024-02-13 11:27                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-02-13 15:44                                                   ` Max Nikulin
2024-02-13 15:47                                                     ` Max Nikulin
2024-02-14 14:51                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-02-27 10:43                                                       ` Max Nikulin
2022-05-29  7:07                                   ` [PATCH v2] Re: Bug in 9.5.3 org--file-default-apps Max Nikulin
2022-05-23 12:40                           ` Craig STCR
2022-05-23 12:59                             ` Craig STCR
2022-05-23 14:14                               ` Craig STCR
2022-05-23 14:32                                 ` Craig STCR
2022-05-25  6:18                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-05-23 15:28                             ` Max Nikulin
2022-05-25  6:24                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-05-25 11:38                                 ` Craig STCR
2022-05-25  6:10                             ` Ihor Radchenko
     [not found]         ` <e9b4e88d-3807-9080-fa86-c297b17794cb@gmail.com>
2022-05-16 12:38           ` Craig STCR
2022-05-18 11:38             ` Ihor Radchenko

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