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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=oo1ggPWt; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.71 X-TUID: xQAA8v/6NiNA --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Maxim Nikulin writes: -- lots of stuff -- Since we're talking about newcomers now, I think there are 2c I can share. - I started sliding down the Emacs slope early this year My - initial use case was Org, as a replacement of Jupyter (I want an - editor, not a fancy web page) - I use Doom. I can say with a great degree of confidence that it has made the transition much easier. - I think the best we can hope for is name the most common /paths/ into Emacs, and tell the user what they're getting into. E.g. Emacs :: the one and only, configure everything from scratch - know exactly what's going on in your config. Doom :: Adds a bunch of presets for common tasks, and a bunch of helper functions/optimisations Spacemacs :: Features feature-rich functionally 'layers' for common tasks Whichever you choose, using a version control system such as [git] is _highly recommended_. Every now and then you'll accidentally break something. This allows you to seamlessly roll back. Hope that's of some interest, Timothy. --=-=-= Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="==-=-=" --==-=-= Content-Type: text/html

Maxim Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> writes:
– lots of stuff –

Since we’re talking about newcomers now, I think there are 2c I can share.

  • I started sliding down the Emacs slope early this year
  • My initial use case was Org, as a replacement of Jupyter (I want an editor,
    not a fancy web page)
  • I use Doom. I can say with a great degree of confidence that it has made the
    transition much easier.
  • I think the best we can hope for is name the most common paths into Emacs, and
    tell the user what they’re getting into.

E.g.

Emacs :: the one and only, configure everything from scratch - know exactly
what’s going on in your config.
Doom :: Adds a bunch of presets for common tasks, and a bunch of helper
functions/optimisations
Spacemacs :: Features feature-rich functionally ’layers’ for common tasks

Whichever you choose, using a version control system such as [git] is highly
recommended. Every now and then you’ll accidentally break something. This allows
you to seamlessly roll back.

Hope that’s of some interest,

Timothy.

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