From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id 2K/dOmTXU2BicgAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 22:42:44 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id uCOsNmTXU2ChCwAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 22:42:44 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CCF7FCB2 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 23:42:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1]:45862 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lN1Lm-0007FT-13 for larch@yhetil.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 18:42:42 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47864) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lN1KT-00065W-6H for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 18:41:21 -0400 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:35465) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lN1KQ-0004t4-ME for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 18:41:20 -0400 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7DE0A2400FB for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 23:41:13 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1616107273; bh=ASsua2GhMCt0HXe9N0seNqU7333j7+V5bOt8ECGpTrQ=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=pdqO+R1eYy8KA0zWUGJ5TScX1AWQHaFKKgUqjZHtwbzah7rzQVuuk79MTnpxf8qSd QLMu2EuYfn2SweDyu8+K5J/Q8CRu1jBmQN8cQJzaBFxT5z89/vjHiw6pEJ87IIgPdP CKpWe9L3mtwHgqpcMToTSu+HNz/NwoEWjwrwWAS0lk6tAEqn4lqDXrbFn9hcFWnrog FLvgN0NSHLmLUDcUgPQMSYY6EMJVAPPsOHWpK0guZFaiGYcmfmf7Tnp2aO/nhnuNS+ wKbLVaOC1Q6D9X4fse3YmQlUfKunTU2e68w6p6wNoTKd5T9e1kMaaxXLqExu5vC2vF /73vu/pg6QNjQ== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4F1hp067TKz9rxB; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 23:41:12 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Juan_Manuel_Mac=C3=ADas?= To: Tim Cross Subject: Re: Syntax Proposal: Multi-line Table Cells/Text Wrapping References: <7a450ea3-b0e4-3322-04cd-fb5a5a555db8@gmx.com> <87o8fgwn9s.fsf@gmail.com> <9533dd41-ec81-43dd-8d25-a41300eb720c@gmx.com> <87czvw85ym.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 23:41:11 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87czvw85ym.fsf@gmail.com> (Tim Cross's message of "Fri, 19 Mar 2021 08:58:14 +1100") Message-ID: <8735wsdr08.fsf@posteo.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=maciaschain@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: orgmode Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1616107364; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=OStFAmz4S9G+6vqCl8skNTnW1z/Zf4rSH7e9nwZ5WzY=; b=TL4iOApPKBwtn2SjTUtZd6604VJukeTiYcO45qfpVQuSOeXrTvzNPDTiJPyAYHQnqfTejx qt6P0Jp8G3/wse0jIFSAiAb5opqBenUAjgjK8Zemss0jgpKm/TeMaY5ugToBesOUWQs63b 6KFHDUmOppXxKj2q5aVP9wciyru5noZxfVL0+pZLT09s1wExJkYmrgxlUutMzRXHSQbpQS StMEY9vvcpHiB2SdKux8cALcczMgOiyDWMlH3kvpCiXGh2cTiRdyVxYzehAWMa+3fE0tp/ PfZ4jvb3y2eKHaNGV1Eh9EZrsevQmUnNwK+ER8rd4e24IwP5ivpO+ORrXB1FLg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1616107364; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=ubHwO2TBmI787EZ354TnYv3bES3Mc/TKDDCRtB+uQfsCSLSE7xHZ5M7uEs6h5sB7tV+tXW aZBu+ySpuV9wbxhJmQnskIJ8XLyvHF8Qc1AaSeEq9u5b8gtk1/J9Sr83m/QCjCjUXfcoup bbnwH2QDjBGwDYebEKrt5mmew0zggD20k+YDTqpckUSD+9uyeLCiyQUyryuTFeN+ph3ukc w1JeDWMJ0gKrvvumVZItPqd1KNN3WDjDqwJT85R0srrY9DYpsB05kcImnck1WumkPFqDk+ +yVAagShNXIAl6qHJttOaUCtq4q3wwOggb9ro78cYwIaT98v9rcJ2Jyspk6jNw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=pdqO+R1e; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.11 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=pdqO+R1e; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 4CCF7FCB2 X-Spam-Score: -3.11 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 1ZfP1vWsUAwY Tim Cross writes: > From watching these discussions in the past, I think the big stumbling > block is how easily multi-row columns can be added and maintained in the > various export formats. Some are easy, like HTML, but others are less > so. In particular, I know from my many years working with Latex, > multi-row columns are not straight-forward. There are lots of edge cases > to deal with and it is hard to get a consistent result programatically. > > Proposals like this one can seem simple and straight-forward on the > surface. However, implementation is another matter. All of the exporters > will need to be updated to handle this new syntax and it will probably > take a fair bit of work to handle it correctly in just plain org files > (formatting, highlighting etc). I don't know if anyone has come up with this other possibility: if the problem is (usually) the inconvenience of editing cells with a lot of text within an Org document (since when exporting to LaTeX for example, it makes no difference whether the cell content is on a single line, if the tabularx package is used properly), then the possibility of editing a cell in a dedicated buffer would be very practical here. A kind of `org-edit-special' for cells... That could be combined with `org-table-toggle-column-width'. Best regards, Juan Manuel