From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id uCjgB8y3gmBrgAAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 14:04:28 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id cKmmA8y3gmD8GwAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 12:04:28 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 309FF12762 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 14:04:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:60090 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lZuXo-0001kB-V3 for larch@yhetil.org; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 08:04:24 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45974) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lZuX2-0001k4-NA for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 08:03:36 -0400 Received: from relay12.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.232]:53889) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lZuX0-0008Jl-Im for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 08:03:36 -0400 Received: from localhost (40-67.ipv4.commingeshautdebit.fr [185.131.40.67]) (Authenticated sender: admin@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by relay12.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B7732200011; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 12:03:29 +0000 (UTC) From: Nicolas Goaziou To: =?utf-8?Q?Andr=C3=A1s?= Simonyi Subject: Re: wip-cite status question and feedback References: <874ktu8gr9.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87mu5xpm4x.fsf@gnu.org> <87img81ad7.fsf@gnu.org> <20210324182751.GA8721@atlantis> <87czuzprmh.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87sg3neo0k.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Mail-Followup-To: =?utf-8?Q?Andr=C3=A1s?= Simonyi , "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" , Bruce D'Arcus Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2021 14:03:28 +0200 In-Reply-To: (=?utf-8?Q?=22Andr=C3=A1s?= Simonyi"'s message of "Wed, 21 Apr 2021 23:47:13 +0200") Message-ID: <8735vh2oof.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.178.232; envelope-from=mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr; helo=relay12.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Bruce D'Arcus , "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1619179467; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=dTeVrZMqhpY6DoNNPKoG5QL9A3O+QfkNPBY79raSPGs=; b=itsPCGZdFUYBdVwwbNjMvBG0daI30f4wZqoivJks4HlnmAydoqYx44Hzle/41+vl8UQoY0 EfBp91QNY0dLGDtTVVbmQDrZGHiUVy3HIBU7bQ7zLdlaKQfV0ZICBpOUldUD5BacMQK1Em igozyZbfs99UAU5ILA0MAXD1D6gqYAHF/dnQfxdh+H203uAttlii6QIl68jwjzngmy4MqN W7NZvVea/FrvZDamcCnVL7SKW76pP9pmSygyBvw0bODnFUdsFTcRxgxpK5/XGrrnMBfnhh uFD/RHTOl2PgyjA6lgGoYff921PVyLL3WYLZksrHf707CCAxqbEmwxMPkvoJxg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1619179467; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=iG5W3I84ptPdus/bR9KYbjtjXrDQI38QJkFQL+gyCxa4t8VOBLVGvcVpeRvoCM3jCwZYwL kVQJbG8COIro+PkFjZij/b88i6MoPjswZzGA3xFhDY/Fr7/Yh6Q5UJYAm5fqohKVDC6i06 8pV8K0M5ly3bpoLLLxrzaHXJ4Ipz9ZJ6rdjdD0Qt/UXUBLOYnrrOvQAqScnuDb3nQWedIq FlKvvPBGiNhyC0QSBNGhE6sVUr7Itod5GYNVjjvuo8w/dvLNnSKrYgTudk+Ov+Ttl35waI K0TjF7YubVo4l1KVyEQxu4NkSZTzqs6aW5OlVGxfP1xUddrKbbmrcOgDsFcGhQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.57 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 309FF12762 X-Spam-Score: -1.57 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: m4hNGDoNNic/ Hello, Andr=C3=A1s Simonyi writes: > well, I think there might be some legitimate use cases, e.g., > (see Smith 1997, p. 2, see also p. 33, pp. 45-47, but /cf./ p. 103) This use-case is not convincing, because it ought to be the task of the citation processor to italicize "cf." (perhaps through an option), for consistency across citations. > here one might want cf. to be set in italics, and I can imagine > situations in which emphasizing a phrase in a prefix/suffix can be > useful, Hmmm. A drawback with allowing emphasis there is that prefix and suffix become parsed data and not plain string anymore. As a consequence, searching through them, e.g., when looking for locator names, requires an additional level of indirection, since you need to first transform parsed data back into plain text. Of course, this is not a deal breaker, just something to know in order to eventually make an informed choice. Regards, --=20 Nicolas Goaziou