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From: Colin Baxter <m43cap@yandex.com>
To: Robert Horn <rjhorn@panix.com>
Cc: , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, rjhorn@alum.mit.edu
Subject: Re: Bug: Org mode fails to compile using Emacs 24.5-r10 [9.4.5 (9.4.5-g3ea248 @ /home/yantar92/.emacs.d/straight/build/org/)]
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2021 16:36:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8735v99k6t.fsf@yandex.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86r1it408l.fsf@panix.com> (Robert Horn's message of "Thu, 29 Apr 2021 10:46:34 -0400")

>>>>> Robert Horn <rjhorn@panix.com> writes:

    > Colin Baxter writes:

    >>>>>>> Robert Horn <rjhorn@panix.com> writes:
    >> 
    >> > Timothy writes:
    >> 
    >> >> Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> writes:
    >> >> 
    >> >> Maybe this is a good time to start a discussion about moving
    >> >> Org's minimum supported Emacs to 25...?
    >> 
    >> > I checked Red Hat, Centos, Debian, SuSE, and Ubuntu.  They are
    >> all > 25.1 or later in their current distributions.  So that will
    >> > probably not cause too much breakage.
    >> 
    >> > -- Robert Horn rjhorn@alum.mit.edu
    >> 
    >> Debian 9.13 (which is still supported) has emacs-24.

    > Interesting question about LTS.  How far back should we consider
    > when estimating the impact of a change like this?  I was looking
    > at current stable versions to estimate the impact of the change.
    > Lots of users avoid the bleeding edge distribution releases, but
    > most update to track the current stable/LTS releases.  Or they
    > won't complain that it's unfair for org to expect them to update
    > emacs to the current stable/LTS version.

    > Ubuntu, Red Hat, CentOS and SuSE are 25.1 or above for their most
    > recent long term support releases.  Some of these distributions go
    > a lot further with various forms of long term support.  I think
    > Red Hat goes back 8 years for example, and that emacs is really
    > old.

    > It looks like 25.1 is available, but not yet the default for
    > Debian "stretch" (Debian 9.13), which is the "oldstable" for
    > Debian. With Debian backport efforts I don't know if this means
    > months or years.  The web page for Emacs25inStretch has not
    > changed since 2017, so it might never happen.

Debian 9.13 may be old but updates are still made available. While
Debian supports the os-version and therefore by implication emacs-24, I
feel org-mode shouldn't deliberately break that support.


  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-29 15:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-28 14:29 Bug: Org mode fails to compile using Emacs 24.5-r10 [9.4.5 (9.4.5-g3ea248 @ /home/yantar92/.emacs.d/straight/build/org/)] Ihor Radchenko
2021-04-28 14:48 ` Timothy
2021-04-28 15:31   ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-04-28 15:47     ` Timothy
2021-04-30  7:26     ` Bastien
2021-05-01 13:57       ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-05-01 14:33         ` Bastien
2021-04-28 21:21   ` Robert Horn
2021-04-29  9:10     ` Colin Baxter
2021-04-29 14:46       ` Robert Horn
2021-04-29 15:36         ` Colin Baxter [this message]
2021-04-29 15:51           ` Timothy
2021-04-29 16:04             ` Colin Baxter
2021-04-29 19:42             ` Tim Cross
2021-04-30  7:25               ` Bastien
2021-09-28  5:33               ` Bastien
2021-09-28 17:06                 ` Bug: Org mode fails to compile using Emacs 24.5-r10 Max Nikulin
2021-09-28 20:36                   ` Samuel Wales
2021-09-28 23:57                   ` Tim Cross
2021-09-29  6:59                     ` Bastien
2021-09-29  6:58                   ` Bastien
2021-09-28 23:34                 ` Bug: Org mode fails to compile using Emacs 24.5-r10 [9.4.5 (9.4.5-g3ea248 @ /home/yantar92/.emacs.d/straight/build/org/)] Tim Cross
2021-09-29  6:45                   ` Bastien
2021-05-01  5:08 ` Kyle Meyer
2021-05-01 13:49   ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-05-01 14:35     ` Kyle Meyer
2021-05-01 20:13       ` Kyle Meyer
2021-05-01 20:27         ` Bastien

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