From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id CHbcBOwfq2DoYwAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 24 May 2021 05:39:24 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id wOB8AOwfq2DHTgAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 24 May 2021 03:39:24 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78A6714DBA for ; Mon, 24 May 2021 05:39:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:35336 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ll1R2-0004Jx-Oa for larch@yhetil.org; Sun, 23 May 2021 23:39:20 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52286) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ll1Qi-0004JZ-Di for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 23 May 2021 23:39:00 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:52114) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ll1Qi-0006Gt-6c; Sun, 23 May 2021 23:39:00 -0400 Received: from [2607:fea8:3fdf:eb8d:e80b:e045:d6ba:60aa] (port=52214 helo=langa) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ll1Qh-0000qg-N0; Sun, 23 May 2021 23:39:00 -0400 From: bandali@gnu.org To: Ypo Subject: Re: Sad tweet References: <953848fb-9af7-494d-90f8-faba46a7cc19@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 23 May 2021 23:38:59 -0400 In-Reply-To: <953848fb-9af7-494d-90f8-faba46a7cc19@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8735ucajho.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Org-mode Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1621827563; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=Yp51f3X1XlcD0sRYELGudXqfukokoP2ZJj85C0steTg=; b=Om/BRKDUni81OLLThPWZ8MYJwGU2RwkOkpho5KZk+ssdUXg3NR/SxTApzxqSKXaS9ALjHE ShycAU5mVcJyx0uwHNNTbkOXkuCFzPZr744q/icAlxR3hooyQuscy61ZFl5FAhfC31TC/D aDLazXMD7Ryk+Tf2iDsTyDhcqS4wl4brEZqh6FVKTUSB7TwaD931Zeg/SJIb5X5IK7Asnt XVUSCLex8HjrCNOGyFi2n1Fe0J2y7ie+BPtl9wpo4N7j8h19wmnIxwJmAofyl0QwSM2yoo V+FoqEZ46Ms6N7Et/wwGi5nUdnrwjwXBVRlAuZ6o6+sDiWwxVbCPIhedZ4XHxg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1621827563; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=ff0h35O2dVYppBXvZsw5vjK6Sk5q8FfDrO6IBrOu1dmL/kVEyYzt+DLy1Z+NoyZVuEzXAv qqA+M3FwlAkQ0ZxaTVTIheHLr7fkjgH65u38bfKtdZv0VFM8FxDqzyVQLAL3fv13XR5QWO a/eVSs5V5EjAuSc4FNhMpO16k5ioGGaSg4fUW0TzeHbC11rmcIErJf6WvVrLtyW+wJplTB JLhVfeW6HjUEyS4kY16PMJ5coqw72ZFDYRsFrA2A4ryTLwUsJMFgfI6vWdEz2YdRtUCmr7 2+GyA16DsZN8PUjMXSXxWZiZXsSMf3xWMYjiDZtJkCzU1J5bSWr/FgW+60mssg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.44 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 78A6714DBA X-Spam-Score: -1.44 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: xD1TwKXAwS6H Ypo writes: > I've read this: > > "Contributing to Emacs is so frustrating. It's not worth it for minor > things and if I cannot get some experience and confidence with minor > things, then I likely won't ever make major contributions." > https://twitter.com/magit_emacs/status/1396536686570610697?s=19 Do you know if there is any more context around that? Did Jonas mention any specific pain points around contributing to Emacs and/or concrete things that he thinks could be improved? Last time I'd seen him post on emacs-devel it seemed like things were going fairly smoothly with his work on adding transient to Emacs(?).