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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: , org-mode-email Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1627892139; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=J9UhjVg+HXVtDcCAErVxrUxWzPEw/xlMIFyseMKuwFQ=; b=uk5G/g61e+BWJKAC9dwMC31L6Tm57gRiggjVksNATUTiFOEshKRjvfQuDa00kgQS2GKrB6 WjHbgmcOgTDvI3HPDhEOoFs816vfjPd4SZKibzTNEnUS6iZrHjoeGF4lHvA8Mvk3jFHGTL 7RIThmW2T9Zm/HuaHb9knmADi70koHmknECvLNSGJVc7GS0tBBncgh6pRu0nP5al0Esh5q x8D92ayxKmKmPae2ZkakbF1F5owpGtffuIkl6ued23LzzhaAKrRmnM/Luqo9yxrTLZL53J ULY1PLiU298wcyvW+ohMb9lYaWZ9BOWI1uhP/jJkOt4GOmCFljMu2CqMKw5/aQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1627892139; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=PUiFNgN6Qb/QN4cYBnJz6H0YWGXG8lO1juCJnZmuPmjXtI4qGUP6IPjnNbp5b93lGp0IdL ONh8kBnggtyxlNB7c+IW31L5SyzZQl5VfV+tmEsBQ2YN+SrHeqR0tFneDjoUfd/K4/3rOe DGq/LwlBsu91LvgGa6wtlFJos2XZjdtNrhrSksc5U1H1Rg1MV3w2d3aculM9Xl7aU2jml6 UxmEu+F/3e18rdblKCFWd/m/tZym75vHdf+QJC27LoP0UqyR7DUZASTGdR9I7loRpXDByZ ZSMz5Eo+PsUmda52GxPBn8FEwXotxayozw+o1o0IoMu2nh4rJs3sN0e9q7Q7WQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=yandex.com header.s=mail header.b=w74zAWWc; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=yandex.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.32 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=yandex.com header.s=mail header.b=w74zAWWc; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=yandex.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 7EF481FC07 X-Spam-Score: -1.32 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: aFIeZ2fVjiYA >>>>> Timothy writes: > Hi Colin, >> Nice work. For me, however, I=E2=80=99m still at a loss, although I >> confess I=E2=80=99ve not kept up to-date with the org citation >> developments. >>=20 >> 1. I don=E2=80=99t understand the relation between the new cite synt= ax >> and the old org-mode . Perhaps there isn=E2=80=99t one. >>=20 >> 2. How is an `org-link-abbrev-alist' related to a global and/or >> local #+bibliography:? Even if I remove reference to my >> `org-link-abbrev-alist' the org-export (to pdf) still does not >> find a different local bibliography file. (I have >> org-cite-global-bibliography set to nil.) > I think the confusion you have lies in the similarity between the > link syntax and cite syntax =E2=80=94 the new `[cite:@key]' citations= are > *not* links. Hopefully that makes them a this a bit clearer :) Ah! Now that's helpful - thanks.