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>>>>> Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> writes:

    r> Colin Baxter =F0=9F=98=BA <m43cap@yandex.com> writes:
    >> Thank you. I cloned org-mode afresh and got the same warning
    >> during 'make' - I presume that too is now fixed.

    r> The warning should never appear now.  I removed it completely.

    >> > Note that org-persist is enabled by default together with >
    >> org-element-cache.  You can indeed disable it,
    >>=20
    >> How can I do this?

    r> If you want to disable cache persistence, just set
    r> `org-element-cache-persistent' to nil.  It is documented in
    r> ORG-NEWS.  If you find ORG-NEWS not clear, please let me know.  I
    r> will try to improve the news record.

Thank you.

    r> If you want to disable cache completely, you can set
    r> `org-element-use-cache' to nil.  However, I am hoping to make
    r> cache enabled all the time in future.  If you have specific
    r> reasons to avoid org-element-cache, may you share them?

I may not have understood things fully, but it seems that the
org-persist directory is set only by the
org-persist-path. Unfortunately, the resulting org-persist directory in
~/.cache is no good for me since I daily clear out my ~/.cache using
bleachbit. I can't find a way of changing org-persist-path and grep
finds the variable only in ORG-NEWS.

Best wishes,

Colin.