From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Daniel Brunner Subject: Re: [org-babel] Does org-babel needs some simplification? Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 21:30:05 +0200 Message-ID: <871vbos4hu.fsf@systemhaus-brunner.de> References: <4C296DDA.1080109@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=55428 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OU3S2-0005JH-Ol for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 16:00:07 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OU3S0-0002h9-TU for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 16:00:06 -0400 Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:58318) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OU3S0-0002h1-Ji for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 16:00:04 -0400 Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OU3Rz-0003tQ-Py for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 22:00:03 +0200 Received: from mail.systemhaus-brunner.de ([80.153.188.67]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 22:00:03 +0200 Received: from daniel by mail.systemhaus-brunner.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 22:00:03 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4C296DDA.1080109@gmail.com> (Torsten Wagner's message of "Tue, 29 Jun 2010 12:51:54 +0900") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hello everyone, thanks for bringing this topic up. I do not want to be misunderstood: org-mode is one of the greatest things developed the last years. I use it every day and it is a great help. I also appreciate the work of all those developers contributing to org-mode / babel. My setup is: I use the git repository because I like some of the new features und from time to time I "pull" the new things. Normalley a "make" does the job and flipping through the log messages helps me to understand the new things. I use org-mode on my main business machine; ok, perhaps it is a bit risky. And I try to use as much as possible "out-of-the-box". But then my .emacs reported problems: org-babel has changed its place and the way it is loaded. I found the reason for that in the news group. But then the nice patch by Eric Schulte for tangling "org-mode" files doesn't work any more because "org-babel-tangle-langs" does not exist any more. And David Maus' addition org-atom for generating atom feeds is broken because there is something with a org-export-inbuffer-options-extra variable (which is not a org-babel problem as I suppose). I know, org-mode is a growing project and I really really like the org-babel features. But for me it is now not advisable any more to keep on the master branch. Today I spent several hours for finding the reasons why something is not working any more. And that is too much for a productive environment. Today, I am a bit sad about my broken org-mode installation and I am going back to the 6.36c. Kind regards, Daniel.