From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Achim Gratz Subject: Re: Web site bug Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:12:18 +0100 Message-ID: <871ugiinj1.fsf@Rainer.invalid> References: <5088513F.7000202@gmx.de> <87k3ufwkyr.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <508AEB33.8050205@gmx.de> <871ugks721.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <80d304gur0.fsf@somewhere.org> <87hapgnv18.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87625vhwu6.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87a9v6khyn.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47843) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TSVTV-0000gK-9m for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 12:12:34 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TSVTU-0000ul-57 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 12:12:33 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:48586) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TSVTT-0000uY-V5 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 12:12:32 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TSVTa-0007bL-Es for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:12:38 +0100 Received: from pd9eb2bdb.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.235.43.219]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:12:38 +0100 Received: from Stromeko by pd9eb2bdb.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:12:38 +0100 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Bastien writes: > You mean "in case users install Org from a tar/zip archive that does > not contain org-loaddefs.el"? > > For now the tar/zip archives does not contain org-loaddefs.el but it > will starting from Org 7.9.3. > > (require 'org-loaddefs) is wrong in case users who cloned Org from Git > forget to "make" or "make autoloads". It is just as wrong as (require > 'org-install) was previously. No? No, (require 'org-loaddefs) is wrong, plain and simple. Except of course when you want to just get the autoloads for an Org from Git installation, since then _all_ autoloads for Org are in this file. > You mean Org from Git is missing the org-loaddefs.el that is produced > by "make" or "make autoloads"? No, it has _all_ autoloads in the same file, all other installations split the autoloads between two files (and automatically load the first and you never need to take care about the second). > Yes, I don't think this is a problem. But it is a problem. > I don't really understand what this is supposed to fix... ? It splits the autoload definitions into two files like all other installations. Almost everybody can then safely forget about org-loaddefs (since it is taken care of in org itself) and only needs to load org-install for Org from Git. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ SD adaptations for KORG EX-800 and Poly-800MkII V0.9: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#KorgSDada