From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: MaDhAt2r Subject: Re: Remove Org from Emacs repository? Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2016 19:36:20 -0600 Message-ID: <871sx4u2cr.fsf@ArchNemesis.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> References: <871sx5pp6u.fsf@laptoptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43269) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cImsM-0007Wn-Nf for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2016 20:36:28 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cImsL-0000qI-RP for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2016 20:36:26 -0500 Received: from mail-oi0-x234.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4003:c06::234]:34629) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cImsL-0000o8-LT for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2016 20:36:25 -0500 Received: by mail-oi0-x234.google.com with SMTP id y198so131723768oia.1 for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2016 17:36:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: Reuben Thomas , Samuel Wales Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" , aaermolov@gmail.com I am for leaving it to the users discretion as to weather or not they have Org installed. I think if anyone out there wants to open an .org file, more than likely, they know what it is and how to get it. If not there is a plethora of information out there to point them in the right direction. After all, isn't free software, at least somewhat, about choices? :) On Dec 18 at 11:32 PM, Reuben Thomas said thus: > On 18 December 2016 at 19:21, Samuel Wales wrote: > >> auto-mode-alist has more than 200 entries. we're gonna remove .org? >> > > =E2=80=8BOrg is nearly 90kLOC, or about 6.5% of the total ELisp code curr= ently in > Emacs. It's bigger than CEDET, smaller than GNUS. > > It's a project of its own with its own release cadence. It would be good = to > make Emacs less of a monolithic entity, which needs lengthy debugging > cycles between releases, and has to choose between being out of date with > various upstreams, or delaying to test integration of big packages. > > Now that package.el is mature, there's no need for Emacs to include all > this stuff in its source releases. > > What emacs -Q does is a different matter: there's plenty of scope to ship= a > variety of packages "out of the box". Various customised Emacs > "distributions" already do this. > > "you must install org to view this format" is a bit too minimal for my >> taste. :) sounds like adobe flash. :) >> > > =E2=80=8BI'm sure plenty of Emacs users never open an Org-mode file. Why= =E2=80=8B should > they have to install it? > > surely this topic was raised to have a bit of fun seeing all the >> responses? :) >> > > =E2=80=8BNo, I was just testing the waters to see if a more modern approa= ch to > development and distribution might be popular. Apparently the answer is, = at > least, not yet! > > --=20 > http://rrt.sc3d.org