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Perhaps you mostly use src blocks as > playground and in-memory database is really convenient for you. However > missed :db file in a block creating tables may cause a *delayed* error > that will happen on attempt to insert some data to these tables later. > It is harder to figure out that :db parameter was forgotten several > screens above. The cost of debugging might be higher than adding a > property line to files where a user is experimenting with sqlite features. We can simply display a warning when :db is not specified. Something like "ob-sql: :db header argument not specified. Using in-memory database" -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at