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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Spam-Score: -5.49 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: DBE0D612BA X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.49 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx0.migadu.com X-TUID: Ys5Qmks6Cs2Z andrea@fedeli.eu writes: >> About possibile abuses, org documentation, to date, clearly tells >> org estimate utilizes times. > >> May you please elaborate? > AF: Sure! Clause 8.5 of current > (2023.Jul.14) org documentation, > https://orgmode.org/manual/Effort-Estimates.html, refers to effort > estimates giving examples that are all appearing to fall in time > domain. I see what you mean. However, est+ column summary does not have to be applied to EFFORT columns. One can, for example, use %SCORE{est+} column specification to summarize values stored in SCORE property. Org has no right to demand SCORE to be in time units and only time units. > > Similarly, I'd not spend too much code to check the format; i > > understand the intent to preserve backward compatibility, bit if > > that format adaptation mistake slipped forward to these days I > > doubt that nice feature was used much so far... > > Yes, but it is easy to have a fallback, so why not. > Because this way you persist in allowing a mistaken usage of that > function. A number is a number but a duration is NOT just a number, > and having something like (just for example) 10kg-0.5ton be taken > as 10-0.5 is in my opinion NOT helpful to any user. We may provide a linter (for M-x org-lint) that will ensure EFFORT estimates to be in understandable format. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at