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envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 12 Feb 2024 10:22:00 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Scanner: mx10.migadu.com X-Spam-Score: -6.49 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 3085371551 X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.49 X-TUID: ZDYDTz7yydiZ Stefan Kangas writes: > Adam Porter writes: > >> Since transient.el is part of Emacs now, these kinds of menus should >> probably be implemented with it. > > IIUC, this is not a menu, but a reminder of key bindings that are usable > in that context. Other keybindings here are self-inserting keys, which > are equally useful, and they wouldn't be available in a transient. I am wondering how quick-help, transient, and which-key (AFAIU, it is to be included into the core soon-ish) play together. transient provides a specific way to define the displayed layout, among other things. At the same time, quick-help provides an alternative (undocumented) way to define the layout. And which-key uses pre-defined layout. I am wondering if transient style to define how various options in the menu/help buffer/which-key buffer can be unified. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at