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From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: [DISCUSSION] The meaning of :cmdline header argument across babel backends (was: [PATCH] Re: [BUG] ob-shell: :shebang changes interpretation of :cmdline)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 13:09:04 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871q6suv7z.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <v083rk$llm$1@ciao.gmane.io>

Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> writes:

> However looking wider, I do not like that :cmdline for ob-shell has 
> different meaning than for other languages, see e.g. ob-sql. Only for 
> shell this parameter is treated as arguments of a *script*. In other 
> cases :cmdline is used to specify arguments of *interpreter* and I think 
> ob-shell should follow this convention.

Alas, we already have the current state of affairs documented in
https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/languages/ob-doc-shell.html#orge70bc7b

So, no breaking changes.

And shell scripts are not like SQL queries - they often do need to check
arguments. So, the current behaviour is justified, IMHO.

For some languages, only switches to the interpreter make sense (ditaa,
lilypond, plantuml). For others, (bash, python, C++, etc), we may want
to pass switches to the script itself more often.

What might be done is introducing _two_ different header arguments - one
for interpreter switches, and another for script/program switches.

Say, :interpreter-cmdline and :script-cmdline.
Then, we can call the current :cmdline behaviour "dwim" and allow users
to be more explicit if necessary.

-- 
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
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Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-04-26 13:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-18 15:54 [BUG] ob-shell: :shebang changes interpretation of :cmdline Max Nikulin
2023-11-18 18:09 ` Matt
2023-12-04 13:58   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-04 20:41     ` Matt
2023-11-18 18:20 ` [BUG] ob-shell: :cmdline fails with single argument (was Re: [BUG] ob-shell: :shebang changes interpretation of :cmdline) Matt
2023-11-19  6:57   ` Max Nikulin
2023-11-19  7:57     ` Matt
2024-04-21 15:09 ` [PATCH] Re: [BUG] ob-shell: :shebang changes interpretation of :cmdline Matt
2024-04-23 10:28   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-04-24 10:33     ` Max Nikulin
2024-04-24 12:52       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-04-25 10:06         ` Max Nikulin
2024-04-26 11:49         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-04-27 10:31           ` Max Nikulin
2024-04-27 13:37             ` Max Nikulin
2024-04-28 12:34             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-27 12:47           ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-27 13:00           ` [BUG] ob-shell may use /bin/sh instead of the specified shell when :cmdline is provided (was: [PATCH] Re: [BUG] ob-shell: :shebang changes interpretation of :cmdline) Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-27 13:08             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-04-23 10:51   ` [PATCH] Re: [BUG] ob-shell: :shebang changes interpretation of :cmdline Max Nikulin
2024-04-23 17:08     ` Max Nikulin
2024-04-26 13:09     ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2024-04-27 10:53       ` [DISCUSSION] The meaning of :cmdline header argument across babel backends Max Nikulin
2024-04-29 13:33         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-05-01 17:48           ` Matt
2024-05-01 18:01             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-05-02 18:50               ` Matt
2024-05-03 12:12                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-05-20 18:01                   ` Matt
2024-05-21 10:28                     ` Max Nikulin
2024-05-21 11:34                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-27 14:57           ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-04-26 13:12     ` [PATCH] Re: [BUG] ob-shell: :shebang changes interpretation of :cmdline Ihor Radchenko
2024-04-27  7:43       ` Matt
2024-04-27  7:48         ` Ihor Radchenko

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