From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: =?utf-8?Q?Fran=C3=A7ois_Pinard?= Subject: Re: Nice blog post - Org-mode in Your Pocket Is a GNU-Shaped Devil Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 07:48:50 -0400 Message-ID: <86r4iqbjod.fsf@iro.umontreal.ca> References: <87vc82r6fc.fsf@krugs.de> <87k3oir2a3.fsf@krugs.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57167) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNiez-0000Js-Mw for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 07:48:54 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNiey-0007nF-JI for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 07:48:53 -0400 Received: from 206-248-137-202.dsl.teksavvy.com ([206.248.137.202]:52771 helo=mercure.bureau.ubity.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNiey-0007mz-Di for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 07:48:52 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87k3oir2a3.fsf@krugs.de> (Rainer M. Krug's message of "Thu, 04 Apr 2013 12:57:56 +0200") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Rainer@krugs.de (Rainer M. Krug) writes: > Sanity - never heard of it. I am giving gnus a few weeks and then I wil > see - I think I am getting used to it (*not* understanding it!) Hi Rainer! I surely tried many mail user agents (MUAs) in my life and, sad to say :-), Gnus is undoubtedly the most featured and flexible, while being the one which best respects various standards in the field. If I write "sad to say", this is because Gnus coupled me more intimately with Emacs, while I tried hard to run away of it, to recover some sanity. To no avail: after many years of abstinence, and with reluctance and dismay, Org got me back in it. Org is so good that I could not resist. In the meantime, despite I found some MUAs quite impressive, I knew deep down that none really match Gnus. So, when Org thrown me back in Emacs, and given Org and Gnus integrate rather well with one another, Gnus was the next logical step, which I do not regret yet. A tiny example from yesterday. Knowing that Google Reader is soon going to leave us, and after a few other unsatisfying tries, I finally opted for Gwene + Gnus, and found out that the UI is even more efficient than Google Reader, at least for me, to sort out what I want to read and what I want to ignore. Some groups (Hacker News is typical) only yield links in Gnus, with no text. It took me about one hour (my Gnus programming is rather rusty) for adding a Gnus command opening many tabs at once, in a graphical browser, for all articles I retain in Gnus for reading. I do not see any other environment in which such tiny projects would stay reasonably small and tractable. Fran=C3=A7ois