From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id OE6HGhngxl4UPAAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 21 May 2020 20:10:01 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id WKpzFhngxl61DAAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 21 May 2020 20:10:01 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E6A139400EF for ; Thu, 21 May 2020 20:10:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:50656 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jbrVu-0007Wu-Ab for larch@yhetil.org; Thu, 21 May 2020 16:09:58 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43660) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jbrVS-0007Ux-3v for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 21 May 2020 16:09:30 -0400 Received: from mailbackend.panix.com ([166.84.1.89]:22423) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jbrVP-0001oQ-QQ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 21 May 2020 16:09:29 -0400 Received: from quad (panix3.panix.com [166.84.1.3]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49Sggq0BpKz11Gm; Thu, 21 May 2020 16:09:27 -0400 (EDT) References: <875zcpqxnq.fsf@gmail.com> <87eerd78w7.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <86d06xwaj2.fsf@panix.com> <87tv09p71a.fsf@gmail.com> User-agent: mu4e 1.4; emacs 26.2 From: Robert Horn To: Gustavo Barros Subject: Re: A small idea to simplify (further) time input in the date/time prompt In-reply-to: <87tv09p71a.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 May 2020 16:09:26 -0400 Message-ID: <867dx5vymh.fsf@panix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=166.84.1.89; envelope-from=rjhorn@panix.com; helo=mailbackend.panix.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/21 16:09:27 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = FreeBSD 9.x or newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -41 X-Spam_score: -4.2 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.2 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: rjhorn@alum.mit.edu Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, rjhorn@alum.mit.edu, Eric S Fraga Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.49 X-TUID: 2XTS/RUj7nfL Gustavo Barros writes: > Hi Robert, > > I do appreciate your arguments. But in reading them, I'd like to > emphasize that I'm not in any way suggesting the timestamps be changed > at all. The suggestion regards exclusively adding and extra way to > input such times in the date/time prompt. And one which I feel is In this context I don't mind, it's the timestamp storage that shouldn't change. I lost that detail in the mail trace. It's something to make clear and will likely cause confusion among users too. Detlef, the dot notation is from DIN 1355 and DIN 5008. It was changed to use colons in 1995 to match ISO 8601. There are still many traditionalists and old documents. Look for phrases like "6.30 Uhr" in old documents. You will find a lot like that. I didn't like the dot notation and agreed with the 1995 change, but it's still a reality. -- Robert Horn rjhorn@alum.mit.edu