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Maybe because it pollutes the home folder. I > read up on snap vs flatpak vs AppImage and flatpak seemed to get the best reviews, so I've > gone with that one. > There has been a real issue with startup times for snap based firefox. While there have been some improvements very recently, the snap version is still significantly slower to start than the flatpak version (on my system, it was taking over 25 seconds! This is on a 20 core i7 with 32Gb RAM and SSD). I recently switched from Ubuntu (which favours snap) to Fedora (which favours flatpak). However, when I was on Ubuntu, I actually replaced the snap version with the deb version (this is still possible, but people don't necessarily know that) because it was so much faster to start. I think the deb/rpm based versions are still the fastest, but flatpak opens firefox within just a couple of seconds on the same hardware where snap took 25.