Re: org-jira.el... and Org conventions (Bastien, Carsten and all)

["Bao Haojun" <baohaojun@gmail.com>]

Hi Sebastien, 

"Sebastien Vauban" <wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com> writes:

> Hi Bao,
>
> "Bao Haojun" wrote:
>> I have implemented org-jira.el, bringing org-mode and Jira system
>> together.
>>
>> Wrote a Wiki page for it on emacswiki:
>> http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/OrgJiraMode
>>
>> Hope somebody find it useful, if he/she is also using Jira and loves
>> org-mode.
>
> I had never heard of Jira, but your work definitely looks very promising.
> IMHO, it should be compared with org-x and its extension to Redmine, among
> others.

Thanks for the praise! Jira is a "commercial" issue tracker, but it also
seems to be OSS friendly (by allowing OSS community to use the software
for free; Apache is using it, see http://wiki.apache.org/general/ApacheJira).

Likewise I had not heard of org-x and Redmine, thanks for letting me know.
>
> But this triggers, for me, another "concern" which is the very wide variety of
> ways to define the same thing.

> ...

> So, my point is: wouldn't it be better if we proposed standard properties in
> Org (in the manual), and implemented mappings in the Org "integration"
> packages (org-jira, org-taskjuggler, org-redmine and the like)?
>
> So, say for example that, from now on, it's more standard in Org to use
> "Assignee" (or anything else) for representing who's assigned a task, and have
> every package map the property "Assignee" to whatever keyword used in external
> tools for representing that concept?

I can see your point, that standard thing is good, if it's already here,
I will definitely try comply to them.

But your worrying people need to transition from one system such as
org-jira to another such as org-x, I think they are not very
often. Because if it happens, it would mean that the COMPANY/COMMUNITY
has decided to switch from Jira to Redmine, can you imagine how often
that can be?

Besides, even if that really happens, it would also mean the
COMPANY/COMMUNITY has got a way to transition from Jira to Redmine, so
there would have already been a way to transit from org-jira to org-x:
org-jira -> Jira -> Redmine -> org-x (and vice versa).

So my point is, if someone try to make transition easy, they should do
it on the company level, such as from Jira to Redmine. Org mode feels
kind of personal to me, and I feel good enough to be able to sync
between company issue tracking system and my org-mode, no need for it to
be able to transit to another issue tracking system's org-mode.

Best Regards,
  Bao Haojun