* bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date [not found] <DB7PR01MB41710340234EF2B900832154AF750@DB7PR01MB4171.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> @ 2019-02-28 17:55 ` Eli Zaretskii 2019-02-28 19:11 ` Robert Pluim 0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2019-02-28 17:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Wong, Philip; +Cc: 34684 > From: "Wong, Philip" <Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk> > Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 14:16:25 +0000 > > When I insert a date by pressing CTRL+C then period then enter I get “<2019-02-28 ¶g¥|>”. > > I’m not sure what the strange character is (¶g¥|), can someone help? Please show a complete recipe, starting from "emacs -Q", to reproduce the issue. When I type "Ctrl-C ." in "emacs -Q", Emacs says that sequence is not bound to any command, so I wonder what is needed to "insert a date" in your scenario. Thanks. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date 2019-02-28 17:55 ` bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date Eli Zaretskii @ 2019-02-28 19:11 ` Robert Pluim 2019-02-28 19:15 ` Eric Abrahamsen 2019-02-28 19:56 ` Eli Zaretskii 0 siblings, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread From: Robert Pluim @ 2019-02-28 19:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: Wong, Philip, 34684 Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes: >> From: "Wong, Philip" <Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk> >> Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 14:16:25 +0000 >> >> When I insert a date by pressing CTRL+C then period then enter I get “<2019-02-28 ¶g¥|>”. >> >> I’m not sure what the strange character is (¶g¥|), can someone help? > > Please show a complete recipe, starting from "emacs -Q", to reproduce > the issue. When I type "Ctrl-C ." in "emacs -Q", Emacs says that > sequence is not bound to any command, so I wonder what is needed to > "insert a date" in your scenario. From the output, this is 'org-time-stamp', which produces <2019-02-28 Thu> here. Based on this in the report: Important settings: value of $LANG: ZHH locale-coding-system: cp1252 Iʼm assuming thereʼs an issue with buffer-file-coding-system or similar. If I do LANG=zh_HK src/emacs -Q (require 'org) (org-time-stamp) => <2019-02-28 四> where that character after the date is CJK IDEOGRAPH-56DB (and now Iʼve exhausted what I know about Asian characters) Robert ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* Re: bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date 2019-02-28 19:11 ` Robert Pluim @ 2019-02-28 19:15 ` Eric Abrahamsen 2019-02-28 19:56 ` Eli Zaretskii 1 sibling, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread From: Eric Abrahamsen @ 2019-02-28 19:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> writes: > Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes: > >>> From: "Wong, Philip" <Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk> >>> Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 14:16:25 +0000 >>> >>> When I insert a date by pressing CTRL+C then period then enter I get “<2019-02-28 ¶g¥|>”. >>> >>> I’m not sure what the strange character is (¶g¥|), can someone help? >> >> Please show a complete recipe, starting from "emacs -Q", to reproduce >> the issue. When I type "Ctrl-C ." in "emacs -Q", Emacs says that >> sequence is not bound to any command, so I wonder what is needed to >> "insert a date" in your scenario. > > From the output, this is 'org-time-stamp', which produces > <2019-02-28 Thu> here. Based on this in the report: > > Important settings: > value of $LANG: ZHH > locale-coding-system: cp1252 > > Iʼm assuming thereʼs an issue with buffer-file-coding-system or > similar. If I do > > LANG=zh_HK src/emacs -Q > (require 'org) > (org-time-stamp) => <2019-02-28 四> That means "four", aka "Thursday" :) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date 2019-02-28 19:11 ` Robert Pluim 2019-02-28 19:15 ` Eric Abrahamsen @ 2019-02-28 19:56 ` Eli Zaretskii 2019-03-01 10:00 ` Robert Pluim 1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2019-02-28 19:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Robert Pluim; +Cc: Philip.Wong, 34684 > From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> > Cc: "Wong\, Philip" <Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk>, 34684@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 20:11:45 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes: > > >> From: "Wong, Philip" <Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk> > >> Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 14:16:25 +0000 > >> > >> When I insert a date by pressing CTRL+C then period then enter I get “<2019-02-28 ¶g¥|>”. > >> > >> I’m not sure what the strange character is (¶g¥|), can someone help? > > > > Please show a complete recipe, starting from "emacs -Q", to reproduce > > the issue. When I type "Ctrl-C ." in "emacs -Q", Emacs says that > > sequence is not bound to any command, so I wonder what is needed to > > "insert a date" in your scenario. > > >From the output, this is 'org-time-stamp', which produces > <2019-02-28 Thu> here. Based on this in the report: > > Important settings: > value of $LANG: ZHH > locale-coding-system: cp1252 > > Iʼm assuming thereʼs an issue with buffer-file-coding-system or > similar. Unlikely: buffer-file-coding-system has no effect whatsoever on the text that is inserted into a buffer, it only has effect when you want to save the buffer or send it to some sub-process. It could be some snafu in Org, though, e.,g. if it doesn't know how to support that value of $LANG. In any case, should be reported to Org developers first. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date 2019-02-28 19:56 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2019-03-01 10:00 ` Robert Pluim 2019-03-01 10:35 ` Eli Zaretskii 0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Robert Pluim @ 2019-03-01 10:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Philip.Wong; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii, 34684 Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes: >> Iʼm assuming thereʼs an issue with buffer-file-coding-system or >> similar. > > Unlikely: buffer-file-coding-system has no effect whatsoever on the > text that is inserted into a buffer, it only has effect when you want > to save the buffer or send it to some sub-process. > > It could be some snafu in Org, though, e.,g. if it doesn't know how to > support that value of $LANG. In any case, should be reported to Org > developers first. org-time-stamp just calls essentially (insert (format-time-string "<%Y-%m-%d %a>" (current-time))) so itʼs hard to see how this could be an issue in Org. Does this happen when running 'emacs -Q'? Robert ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date 2019-03-01 10:00 ` Robert Pluim @ 2019-03-01 10:35 ` Eli Zaretskii 2019-03-01 13:47 ` Robert Pluim 0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2019-03-01 10:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Robert Pluim; +Cc: Philip.Wong, 34684 > From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> > Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 34684@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2019 11:00:01 +0100 > > > It could be some snafu in Org, though, e.,g. if it doesn't know how to > > support that value of $LANG. In any case, should be reported to Org > > developers first. > > org-time-stamp just calls essentially > > (insert (format-time-string "<%Y-%m-%d %a>" (current-time))) > > so itʼs hard to see how this could be an issue in Org. That's only so if the above produces the same garbled result as in the original report. Does it? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date 2019-03-01 10:35 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2019-03-01 13:47 ` Robert Pluim 2019-03-01 13:49 ` Robert Pluim 2019-03-01 14:09 ` Eli Zaretskii 0 siblings, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread From: Robert Pluim @ 2019-03-01 13:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: Philip.Wong, 34684 Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes: >> From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 34684@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2019 11:00:01 +0100 >> >> > It could be some snafu in Org, though, e.,g. if it doesn't know how to >> > support that value of $LANG. In any case, should be reported to Org >> > developers first. >> >> org-time-stamp just calls essentially >> >> (insert (format-time-string "<%Y-%m-%d %a>" (current-time))) >> >> so itʼs hard to see how this could be an issue in Org. > > That's only so if the above produces the same garbled result as in the > original report. Does it? Didnʼt I send this yesterday? $ LANG=zh_HK src/emacs -Q -l ss.el (require 'org) (org-time-stamp) <2019-03-01 五> I think '五' is 'Five', but donʼt quote me on that. So at least for me itʼs working correctly (in both *scratch* and an Org-mode buffer), which means thereʼs something wrong in the reporter's configuration somewhere. Robert ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date 2019-03-01 13:47 ` Robert Pluim @ 2019-03-01 13:49 ` Robert Pluim 2019-03-01 14:09 ` Eli Zaretskii 1 sibling, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread From: Robert Pluim @ 2019-03-01 13:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: Philip.Wong, 34684 Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> writes: > Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes: > >>> From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> >>> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 34684@debbugs.gnu.org >>> Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2019 11:00:01 +0100 >>> >>> > It could be some snafu in Org, though, e.,g. if it doesn't know how to >>> > support that value of $LANG. In any case, should be reported to Org >>> > developers first. >>> >>> org-time-stamp just calls essentially >>> >>> (insert (format-time-string "<%Y-%m-%d %a>" (current-time))) >>> >>> so itʼs hard to see how this could be an issue in Org. >> >> That's only so if the above produces the same garbled result as in the >> original report. Does it? > > Didnʼt I send this yesterday? > > $ LANG=zh_HK src/emacs -Q -l ss.el > (require 'org) > (org-time-stamp) > <2019-03-01 五> > > I think '五' is 'Five', but donʼt quote me on that. > > So at least for me itʼs working correctly (in both *scratch* and an > Org-mode buffer), which means thereʼs something wrong in the > reporter's configuration somewhere. And also (insert (format-time-string "<%Y-%m-%d %a>" (current-time))) produces the same result for me. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date 2019-03-01 13:47 ` Robert Pluim 2019-03-01 13:49 ` Robert Pluim @ 2019-03-01 14:09 ` Eli Zaretskii 2019-03-01 14:25 ` Robert Pluim 1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2019-03-01 14:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Robert Pluim; +Cc: Philip.Wong, 34684 > From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> > Cc: Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk, 34684@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2019 14:47:21 +0100 > > > That's only so if the above produces the same garbled result as in the > > original report. Does it? > > Didnʼt I send this yesterday? > > $ LANG=zh_HK src/emacs -Q -l ss.el > (require 'org) > (org-time-stamp) > <2019-03-01 五> > > I think '五' is 'Five', but donʼt quote me on that. This is not garbage by any measure. Please compare with what the OP reported. In any case, the original report was for Thursday, not Friday. the former should AFAIU display 四. But neither is nowhere close to the sequence the OP reported, not even if I break the correct character into individual bytes, so some other factor is at work here. > So at least for me itʼs working correctly (in both *scratch* and an > Org-mode buffer), which means thereʼs something wrong in the > reporter's configuration somewhere. What, if anything, is wrong with the OP's configuration is exactly the issue here. There's no question that current-time and format-time-string work in general. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date 2019-03-01 14:09 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2019-03-01 14:25 ` Robert Pluim 2019-03-01 14:42 ` Eli Zaretskii 0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Robert Pluim @ 2019-03-01 14:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: Philip.Wong, 34684 Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes: >> From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> >> Cc: Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk, 34684@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2019 14:47:21 +0100 >> >> > That's only so if the above produces the same garbled result as in the >> > original report. Does it? >> >> Didnʼt I send this yesterday? >> >> $ LANG=zh_HK src/emacs -Q -l ss.el >> (require 'org) >> (org-time-stamp) >> <2019-03-01 五> >> >> I think '五' is 'Five', but donʼt quote me on that. > > This is not garbage by any measure. Please compare with what the OP > reported. We are miscommunicating. I was demonstrating that in my setup, org-time-stamp produces the correct output => itʼs a configuration issue. > What, if anything, is wrong with the OP's configuration is exactly the > issue here. Right. Robert ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date 2019-03-01 14:25 ` Robert Pluim @ 2019-03-01 14:42 ` Eli Zaretskii 2019-03-11 9:41 ` Wong, Philip 0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2019-03-01 14:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Robert Pluim; +Cc: Philip.Wong, 34684 > From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> > Cc: Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk, 34684@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2019 15:25:04 +0100 > > We are miscommunicating. I was demonstrating that in my setup, > org-time-stamp produces the correct output => itʼs a configuration > issue. I'm not yet sure it's a configuration issue. It could be some bug specific to Windows. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date 2019-03-01 14:42 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2019-03-11 9:41 ` Wong, Philip 2019-03-11 10:43 ` Robert Pluim 2019-03-11 14:45 ` Eli Zaretskii 0 siblings, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread From: Wong, Philip @ 2019-03-11 9:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii, Robert Pluim; +Cc: 34684@debbugs.gnu.org Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by emacs -Q. How exactly am I supposed to run this command? I tried ctrl c and then started typing 'emacs -Q' but it did nothing. -----Original Message----- From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 2:43 PM To: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> Cc: Wong, Philip <Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk>; 34684@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date > From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> > Cc: Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk, 34684@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2019 15:25:04 +0100 > > We are miscommunicating. I was demonstrating that in my setup, > org-time-stamp produces the correct output => itʼs a configuration > issue. I'm not yet sure it's a configuration issue. It could be some bug specific to Windows. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date 2019-03-11 9:41 ` Wong, Philip @ 2019-03-11 10:43 ` Robert Pluim 2019-03-11 10:47 ` Wong, Philip 2019-03-11 14:45 ` Eli Zaretskii 1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Robert Pluim @ 2019-03-11 10:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Wong, Philip; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii, 34684@debbugs.gnu.org >>>>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 09:41:41 +0000, "Wong, Philip" <Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk> said: Philip> Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by emacs -Q. How Philip> exactly am I supposed to run this command? Philip> I tried ctrl c and then started typing 'emacs -Q' but it Philip> did nothing. I guess youʼre starting emacs by clicking on some icon? You need to start it from the command line, with an argument of -Q, probably from cmd.exe or similar (I am Emacs-on-windows ignorant). Robert ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date 2019-03-11 10:43 ` Robert Pluim @ 2019-03-11 10:47 ` Wong, Philip 2019-03-11 14:58 ` Eli Zaretskii 2019-03-12 3:42 ` bug#34684: " Takaaki Ishikawa 0 siblings, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread From: Wong, Philip @ 2019-03-11 10:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Robert Pluim; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii, 34684@debbugs.gnu.org [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 942 bytes --] Does the same thing [cid:image001.png@01D4D7F7.C09967C0] -----Original Message----- From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 10:43 AM To: Wong, Philip <Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>; 34684@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date >>>>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 09:41:41 +0000, "Wong, Philip" <Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk<mailto:Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk>> said: Philip> Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by emacs -Q. How Philip> exactly am I supposed to run this command? Philip> I tried ctrl c and then started typing 'emacs -Q' but it Philip> did nothing. I guess youʼre starting emacs by clicking on some icon? You need to start it from the command line, with an argument of -Q, probably from cmd.exe or similar (I am Emacs-on-windows ignorant). Robert [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 4230 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: image001.png --] [-- Type: image/png, Size: 22875 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date 2019-03-11 10:47 ` Wong, Philip @ 2019-03-11 14:58 ` Eli Zaretskii [not found] ` <DB7PR01MB4171B6AF4751C4D196E19DECAF480@DB7PR01MB4171.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> 2019-03-12 3:42 ` bug#34684: " Takaaki Ishikawa 1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2019-03-11 14:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Wong, Philip; +Cc: rpluim, 34684 > From: "Wong, Philip" <Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk> > CC: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, "34684@debbugs.gnu.org" > <34684@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 10:47:00 +0000 > > Does the same thing OK. Can you send the list of abbreviated weekdays in your locale's language, as you expect them to be displayed? Please send them as text, not as images. Also, does this display the data correctly: M-: (insert (format-time-string "<%Y-%m-%d %a>" (current-time))) RET or does it insert the same garbled characters? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
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* bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date [not found] ` <DB7PR01MB4171B6AF4751C4D196E19DECAF480@DB7PR01MB4171.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> @ 2019-03-11 16:41 ` Robert Pluim 2019-03-11 16:43 ` Wong, Philip 0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Robert Pluim @ 2019-03-11 16:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Wong, Philip; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii, 34684@debbugs.gnu.org >>>>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 16:13:16 +0000, "Wong, Philip" <Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk> said: Philip> Chinese, Sunday to Saturday:日一二三四五六 Philip> Attempting M-: (I hope I did this right, I pressed Alt + Philip> Shift + :, then copied and pasted your command) Philip> No output but it says this on the bottom: 'Trailing Philip> garbage following expression' I guess that means you typed literally ' RET'. Eli meant: type the command up to the closing ')', and then hit the 'Enter' key, which we normally refer to as 'RET'. Robert ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date 2019-03-11 16:41 ` Robert Pluim @ 2019-03-11 16:43 ` Wong, Philip 2019-03-11 16:54 ` Eli Zaretskii 0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Wong, Philip @ 2019-03-11 16:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Robert Pluim; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii, 34684@debbugs.gnu.org I can confirm that I did press Enter, I assumed that meant Return already. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 4:42 PM To: Wong, Philip <Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>; 34684@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date >>>>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 16:13:16 +0000, "Wong, Philip" <Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk> said: Philip> Chinese, Sunday to Saturday:日一二三四五六 Philip> Attempting M-: (I hope I did this right, I pressed Alt + Philip> Shift + :, then copied and pasted your command) Philip> No output but it says this on the bottom: 'Trailing Philip> garbage following expression' I guess that means you typed literally ' RET'. Eli meant: type the command up to the closing ')', and then hit the 'Enter' key, which we normally refer to as 'RET'. Robert ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date 2019-03-11 16:43 ` Wong, Philip @ 2019-03-11 16:54 ` Eli Zaretskii 2019-03-11 16:55 ` Wong, Philip 0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2019-03-11 16:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Wong, Philip; +Cc: rpluim, 34684 > X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, > RECEIVED_FROM_WINDOWS_HOST,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 > From: "Wong, Philip" <Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk> > CC: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, "34684@debbugs.gnu.org" > <34684@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 16:43:00 +0000 > Accept-Language: en-GB, ja-JP, en-US > > I can confirm that I did press Enter, I assumed that meant Return already. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 4:42 PM > To: Wong, Philip <Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk> > Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>; 34684@debbugs.gnu.org > Subject: Re: bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date > > >>>>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 16:13:16 +0000, "Wong, Philip" <Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk> said: > > Philip> Chinese, Sunday to Saturday:日一二三四五六 > > Philip> Attempting M-: (I hope I did this right, I pressed Alt + > Philip> Shift + :, then copied and pasted your command) > > Philip> No output but it says this on the bottom: 'Trailing > Philip> garbage following expression' > > I guess that means you typed literally ' RET'. Eli meant: type the command up to the closing ')', and then hit the 'Enter' key, which we normally refer to as 'RET'. Then please make sure you type 3 closing parentheses at the end, not 4. If I type 4, I get the same response as you describe. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date 2019-03-11 16:54 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2019-03-11 16:55 ` Wong, Philip 2019-03-11 17:29 ` Eli Zaretskii 0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Wong, Philip @ 2019-03-11 16:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, 34684@debbugs.gnu.org Thanks Eli, you're right. I still get '<2019-03-11 ¶g¤@>' -----Original Message----- From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 4:54 PM To: Wong, Philip <Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk> Cc: rpluim@gmail.com; 34684@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date > X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, > RECEIVED_FROM_WINDOWS_HOST,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled > version=3.3.2 > From: "Wong, Philip" <Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk> > CC: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, "34684@debbugs.gnu.org" > <34684@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 16:43:00 +0000 > Accept-Language: en-GB, ja-JP, en-US > > I can confirm that I did press Enter, I assumed that meant Return already. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 4:42 PM > To: Wong, Philip <Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk> > Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>; 34684@debbugs.gnu.org > Subject: Re: bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date > > >>>>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 16:13:16 +0000, "Wong, Philip" <Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk> said: > > Philip> Chinese, Sunday to Saturday:日一二三四五六 > > Philip> Attempting M-: (I hope I did this right, I pressed Alt + > Philip> Shift + :, then copied and pasted your command) > > Philip> No output but it says this on the bottom: 'Trailing > Philip> garbage following expression' > > I guess that means you typed literally ' RET'. Eli meant: type the command up to the closing ')', and then hit the 'Enter' key, which we normally refer to as 'RET'. Then please make sure you type 3 closing parentheses at the end, not 4. If I type 4, I get the same response as you describe. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date 2019-03-11 16:55 ` Wong, Philip @ 2019-03-11 17:29 ` Eli Zaretskii 2019-03-11 17:35 ` Wong, Philip 0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2019-03-11 17:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Wong, Philip; +Cc: rpluim, 34684 > From: "Wong, Philip" <Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk> > CC: "rpluim@gmail.com" <rpluim@gmail.com>, "34684@debbugs.gnu.org" > <34684@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 16:55:42 +0000 > > Thanks Eli, you're right. > > I still get '<2019-03-11 ¶g¤@>' OK, as expected. This means Org is indeed off the hook, the problem is with format-time-string and/or the Windows implementation of the strftime function. Does the below produce correct results, or does it also produce garbled strings: M-: (insert (format-time-string "<%Y-%m-%d %A>" (current-time))) RET This is the same as what you tried, but with capital %A instead of lower-case %a. %A should produce the full name of the weekday. Also, please evaluate each of the following expressions with M-: ... RET (replace the "..." with each expression below), and please tell what each of them produced: (w32-get-current-locale-id) (w32-get-locale-info (w32-get-current-locale-id) t) (w32-get-default-locale-id) (w32-get-default-locale-id t) (locale-info 'days) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date 2019-03-11 17:29 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2019-03-11 17:35 ` Wong, Philip 2019-03-11 17:55 ` Eli Zaretskii 0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Wong, Philip @ 2019-03-11 17:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, 34684@debbugs.gnu.org Here is the output in the order of commands you mentioned: <2019-03-11 ¬P´Á¤@> For the other commands, there is no output in the actual buffer) but on the bottom it says.... 3076 (#o6004, #xc04) "?? (??,???????)" 1033 (#o2011, #x409) 3076 (#o6004, #xc04) ["???" "???" "???" "???" "???" "???" "???"] -----Original Message----- From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 5:30 PM To: Wong, Philip <Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk> Cc: rpluim@gmail.com; 34684@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date > From: "Wong, Philip" <Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk> > CC: "rpluim@gmail.com" <rpluim@gmail.com>, "34684@debbugs.gnu.org" > <34684@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 16:55:42 +0000 > > Thanks Eli, you're right. > > I still get '<2019-03-11 ¶g¤@>' OK, as expected. This means Org is indeed off the hook, the problem is with format-time-string and/or the Windows implementation of the strftime function. Does the below produce correct results, or does it also produce garbled strings: M-: (insert (format-time-string "<%Y-%m-%d %A>" (current-time))) RET This is the same as what you tried, but with capital %A instead of lower-case %a. %A should produce the full name of the weekday. Also, please evaluate each of the following expressions with M-: ... RET (replace the "..." with each expression below), and please tell what each of them produced: (w32-get-current-locale-id) (w32-get-locale-info (w32-get-current-locale-id) t) (w32-get-default-locale-id) (w32-get-default-locale-id t) (locale-info 'days) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date 2019-03-11 17:35 ` Wong, Philip @ 2019-03-11 17:55 ` Eli Zaretskii 2019-03-12 9:58 ` Wong, Philip 0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2019-03-11 17:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Wong, Philip; +Cc: rpluim, 34684 > From: "Wong, Philip" <Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk> > CC: "rpluim@gmail.com" <rpluim@gmail.com>, "34684@debbugs.gnu.org" > <34684@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 17:35:05 +0000 > > Here is the output in the order of commands you mentioned: > <2019-03-11 ¬P´Á¤@> > > For the other commands, there is no output in the actual buffer) but on the bottom it says.... > 3076 (#o6004, #xc04) > "?? (??,???????)" > 1033 (#o2011, #x409) > 3076 (#o6004, #xc04) > ["???" "???" "???" "???" "???" "???" "???"] Thanks, I think I understand what happens. The problem is that your locale produces day names that cannot be represented with codepage 1252, so you get garbled strings and question marks instead. Does it help to change the value of locale-coding-system, like below? M-: (setq locale-coding-system 'cp950) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date 2019-03-11 17:55 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2019-03-12 9:58 ` Wong, Philip 2019-03-12 16:01 ` Eli Zaretskii 0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Wong, Philip @ 2019-03-12 9:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, 34684@debbugs.gnu.org That did the job, thanks! -----Original Message----- From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 5:55 PM To: Wong, Philip <Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk> Cc: rpluim@gmail.com; 34684@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date > From: "Wong, Philip" <Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk> > CC: "rpluim@gmail.com" <rpluim@gmail.com>, "34684@debbugs.gnu.org" > <34684@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 17:35:05 +0000 > > Here is the output in the order of commands you mentioned: > <2019-03-11 ¬P´Á¤@> > > For the other commands, there is no output in the actual buffer) but on the bottom it says.... > 3076 (#o6004, #xc04) > "?? (??,???????)" > 1033 (#o2011, #x409) > 3076 (#o6004, #xc04) > ["???" "???" "???" "???" "???" "???" "???"] Thanks, I think I understand what happens. The problem is that your locale produces day names that cannot be represented with codepage 1252, so you get garbled strings and question marks instead. Does it help to change the value of locale-coding-system, like below? M-: (setq locale-coding-system 'cp950) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date 2019-03-12 9:58 ` Wong, Philip @ 2019-03-12 16:01 ` Eli Zaretskii 2019-03-12 16:04 ` Wong, Philip 2020-05-22 12:10 ` Bastien 0 siblings, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2019-03-12 16:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Wong, Philip; +Cc: rpluim, 34684 > From: "Wong, Philip" <Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk> > CC: "rpluim@gmail.com" <rpluim@gmail.com>, "34684@debbugs.gnu.org" > <34684@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 09:58:17 +0000 > > That did the job, thanks! OK, thanks. I guess we will need to try doing this automatically at startup... ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date 2019-03-12 16:01 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2019-03-12 16:04 ` Wong, Philip 2020-05-22 12:10 ` Bastien 1 sibling, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread From: Wong, Philip @ 2019-03-12 16:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, 34684@debbugs.gnu.org FTR I'm running Windows 10 -----Original Message----- From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 4:01 PM To: Wong, Philip <Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk> Cc: rpluim@gmail.com; 34684@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date > From: "Wong, Philip" <Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk> > CC: "rpluim@gmail.com" <rpluim@gmail.com>, "34684@debbugs.gnu.org" > <34684@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 09:58:17 +0000 > > That did the job, thanks! OK, thanks. I guess we will need to try doing this automatically at startup... ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date 2019-03-12 16:01 ` Eli Zaretskii 2019-03-12 16:04 ` Wong, Philip @ 2020-05-22 12:10 ` Bastien 2020-05-22 12:18 ` Eli Zaretskii 1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Bastien @ 2020-05-22 12:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: Wong, Philip, rpluim, 34684 It seems like the bug is not related to org-mode. I'd like to "unassign" the bug report from org-mode, but I am not sure how to do that. If anyone can help, thanks. -- Bastien ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date 2020-05-22 12:10 ` Bastien @ 2020-05-22 12:18 ` Eli Zaretskii 0 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2020-05-22 12:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bastien; +Cc: Philip.Wong, rpluim, 34684-done > From: Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> > Cc: "Wong, Philip" <Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk>, rpluim@gmail.com, > 34684@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 22 May 2020 14:10:21 +0200 > > It seems like the bug is not related to org-mode. It isn't, but it can also be closed. Which I did. Thanks. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* bug#34684: bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date 2019-03-11 10:47 ` Wong, Philip 2019-03-11 14:58 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2019-03-12 3:42 ` Takaaki Ishikawa 2019-03-12 15:53 ` Eli Zaretskii 1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread From: Takaaki Ishikawa @ 2019-03-12 3:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Wong, Philip; +Cc: Robert Pluim, Eli Zaretskii, 34684@debbugs.gnu.org [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1251 bytes --] Hi folks, Have you tried to use `set-local-environment'? I usually use the command to change the date formatting in my init.el as follows: (set-locale-environment "en_US.UTF-8") ;; "ja_JP.UTF-8" Best regards, Takaaki Ishikawa 2019年3月12日(火) 3:34 Wong, Philip <Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk>: > Does the same thing > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 10:43 AM > To: Wong, Philip <Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk> > Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>; 34684@debbugs.gnu.org > Subject: Re: bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date > > > > >>>>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 09:41:41 +0000, "Wong, Philip" < > Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk> said: > > > > Philip> Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by emacs -Q. How > > Philip> exactly am I supposed to run this command? > > > > Philip> I tried ctrl c and then started typing 'emacs -Q' but it > > Philip> did nothing. > > > > I guess youʼre starting emacs by clicking on some icon? You need to start > it from the command line, with an argument of -Q, probably from cmd.exe or > similar (I am Emacs-on-windows ignorant). > > > > Robert > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 3641 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: image001.png --] [-- Type: image/png, Size: 22875 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* bug#34684: bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date 2019-03-12 3:42 ` bug#34684: " Takaaki Ishikawa @ 2019-03-12 15:53 ` Eli Zaretskii 0 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2019-03-12 15:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Takaaki Ishikawa; +Cc: Philip.Wong, rpluim, 34684 > From: Takaaki Ishikawa <takaxp@ieee.org> > Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 12:42:39 +0900 > Cc: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, > "34684@debbugs.gnu.org" <34684@debbugs.gnu.org> > > Have you tried to use `set-local-environment'? > I usually use the command to change the date formatting in my init.el as follows: > > (set-locale-environment "en_US.UTF-8") ;; "ja_JP.UTF-8" You are on GNU/Linux, right? Because the above will not work on Windows, because UTF-8 os not reliably supported, not even in Windows 10 (which added some improvements in that area). But perhaps this could help: (set-language-environment "Chinese-Big5") However, it's possible that even this will not help, unless the system codepage is changed to something that can support Chinese. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
* bug#34684: 26.1; Strange characters when inserting date 2019-03-11 9:41 ` Wong, Philip 2019-03-11 10:43 ` Robert Pluim @ 2019-03-11 14:45 ` Eli Zaretskii 1 sibling, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2019-03-11 14:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Wong, Philip; +Cc: rpluim, 34684 > From: "Wong, Philip" <Philip.Wong@warwick.ac.uk> > CC: "34684@debbugs.gnu.org" <34684@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 09:41:41 +0000 > > Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by emacs -Q. > > How exactly am I supposed to run this command? Open the Windows command window that runs cmd.exe, and type "emacs -Q" there. Then press the [Enter] key. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 30+ messages in thread
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