From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jambunathan K Subject: Frontmatter / Text before first headline Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2012 13:11:42 +0530 Message-ID: <81lion57bd.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:59153) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RsUpQ-0001bO-Kv for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 02:42:08 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RsUpL-0004mP-2D for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 02:42:04 -0500 Received: from mail-pw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.160.41]:51743) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RsUpK-0004mG-Sf for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 02:41:59 -0500 Received: by pbaa12 with SMTP id a12so972104pba.0 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 23:41:57 -0800 (PST) List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Orgmode Cc: Nicolas Goaziou > that is every element between the beginning of the parsed area and its > first headline. I have trouble understanding what the real purpose of the "text before the first headline" is. It looks to me more like a placeholder for capturing the "Frontmatter" [1]. I have also trouble understanding what the rightful position for it is: Should it be like: (a) Title, Initial Text, TOC, Chapters Or like (b) Title, TOC, Initial Text, Chapters Currently org-latex does a (b). But if I look at an organization of a typical document, I am inclined to think that it should be (a). It is also my contention that Table Of Contents is relocatable only as a means to achieve (b). I am wondering if you would be interested in formalizing frontmatter in Org documents. Backends will then be obligated to render the front matter headings as "centered text". --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- <> * FRONTMATTER Abstract This is the document abstract * FRONTMATTER Contents <> * Chapter1 * Chapter2 --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Footnotes: [1] I see that documents - books as wells as theses - are roughly ordered as follows: Title Page, Frontmatter, Chapters TOC and other listings are considered as part of Frontmatter but act as fences between the Chapter and preceding text. - Title Page ,---- Frontmatter | - Copyright notice | - Abstract | - Preface | - Acknowledgements | - Dedication | - Table Of Contents | - List of Tables, Figures and Illustrations etc `---- - Chapter Texts - References --