Rebinding of home and end keys

Rebinding of home and end keys

[Liam Healy]

I have in my .emacs

(global-set-key [(home)] 'beginning-of-buffer)
(global-set-key [(end)] 'end-of-buffer)

Starting with a recent (last few months) org-mode version, the home
and end keys are bound to be beginning of end of line when in org
files.   This happens even if I do my keybinding after I load org.
Can this rebinding be removed, or at least made optional?  I do not
see why these keys are bound at all; these are regular emacs functions
(not org-mode functions) so emacs (by default) and the user (by
resetting the keys globally) can establish themselves what they want.

Org-mode version 7.02trans (release_7.3.10.g7f79)

Thank you.

Liam

Re: Rebinding of home and end keys

[Carsten Dominik]

Hi,

is there a git wizard who can find out when these lines were  
introduced in org.el.

(define-key org-mode-map [home] 'org-beginning-of-line)
(define-key org-mode-map [end]  'org-end-of-line)

Maybe the commit message does explain why that was done?

Thanks.

- Carsten

On Nov 10, 2010, at 9:50 AM, Liam Healy wrote:

> I have in my .emacs
>
> (global-set-key [(home)] 'beginning-of-buffer)
> (global-set-key [(end)] 'end-of-buffer)
>
> Starting with a recent (last few months) org-mode version, the home
> and end keys are bound to be beginning of end of line when in org
> files.   This happens even if I do my keybinding after I load org.
> Can this rebinding be removed, or at least made optional?  I do not
> see why these keys are bound at all; these are regular emacs functions
> (not org-mode functions) so emacs (by default) and the user (by
> resetting the keys globally) can establish themselves what they want.
>
> Org-mode version 7.02trans (release_7.3.10.g7f79)
>
> Thank you.
>
> Liam
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
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Re: Rebinding of home and end keys

[Liam Healy]

Carsten,

git blame lisp/org.el

668e28f4 (Carsten Dominik   2009-09-25 08:03:23 +0100 19025)
(define-key org-mode-map [home] 'org-beginning-of-line)
668e28f4 (Carsten Dominik   2009-09-25 08:03:23 +0100 19026)
(define-key org-mode-map [end]  'org-end-of-line)

Liam

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Carsten Dominik
<carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> is there a git wizard who can find out when these lines were introduced in
> org.el.
>
> (define-key org-mode-map [home] 'org-beginning-of-line)
> (define-key org-mode-map [end]  'org-end-of-line)
>
> Maybe the commit message does explain why that was done?
>
> Thanks.
>
> - Carsten
>
> On Nov 10, 2010, at 9:50 AM, Liam Healy wrote:
>
>> I have in my .emacs
>>
>> (global-set-key [(home)] 'beginning-of-buffer)
>> (global-set-key [(end)] 'end-of-buffer)
>>
>> Starting with a recent (last few months) org-mode version, the home
>> and end keys are bound to be beginning of end of line when in org
>> files.   This happens even if I do my keybinding after I load org.
>> Can this rebinding be removed, or at least made optional?  I do not
>> see why these keys are bound at all; these are regular emacs functions
>> (not org-mode functions) so emacs (by default) and the user (by
>> resetting the keys globally) can establish themselves what they want.
>>
>> Org-mode version 7.02trans (release_7.3.10.g7f79)
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Liam
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>
>

Re: Rebinding of home and end keys

[Jambunathan K]

Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi,
>
> is there a git wizard who can find out when these lines were
> introduced in org.el.
>
> (define-key org-mode-map [home] 'org-beginning-of-line)
> (define-key org-mode-map [end]  'org-end-of-line)
>
> Maybe the commit message does explain why that was done?
>

git blames the following commit:

commit 668e28f4d050b80686937c4b7b8617f16d887ba0
Author: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
Date:   Fri Sep 25 08:03:23 2009 +0100

    Bind <home> and <end> to the org-specific commands

Jambunathan K.

> Thanks.
>
> - Carsten
>
> On Nov 10, 2010, at 9:50 AM, Liam Healy wrote:
>
>> I have in my .emacs
>>
>> (global-set-key [(home)] 'beginning-of-buffer)
>> (global-set-key [(end)] 'end-of-buffer)
>>
>> Starting with a recent (last few months) org-mode version, the home
>> and end keys are bound to be beginning of end of line when in org
>> files.   This happens even if I do my keybinding after I load org.
>> Can this rebinding be removed, or at least made optional?  I do not
>> see why these keys are bound at all; these are regular emacs functions
>> (not org-mode functions) so emacs (by default) and the user (by
>> resetting the keys globally) can establish themselves what they want.
>>
>> Org-mode version 7.02trans (release_7.3.10.g7f79)
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Liam
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode

Re: Rebinding of home and end keys

[Jambunathan K]

Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> writes:

> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> is there a git wizard who can find out when these lines were
>> introduced in org.el.
>>
>> (define-key org-mode-map [home] 'org-beginning-of-line)
>> (define-key org-mode-map [end]  'org-end-of-line)
>>
>> Maybe the commit message does explain why that was done?
>>
>
> git blames the following commit:
>
> commit 668e28f4d050b80686937c4b7b8617f16d887ba0
> Author: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
> Date:   Fri Sep 25 08:03:23 2009 +0100
>
>     Bind <home> and <end> to the org-specific commands


Here are the URLs:
http://repo.or.cz/w/org-mode.git/shortlog?pg=31
http://repo.or.cz/w/org-mode.git/commit/668e28f4d050b80686937c4b7b8617f16d887ba0

Full log also is not very elaborate:
http://repo.or.cz/w/org-mode.git/log/668e28f4d050b80686937c4b7b8617f16d887ba0

Jambunathan K.

>
> Jambunathan K.
>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> - Carsten
>>
>> On Nov 10, 2010, at 9:50 AM, Liam Healy wrote:
>>
>>> I have in my .emacs
>>>
>>> (global-set-key [(home)] 'beginning-of-buffer)
>>> (global-set-key [(end)] 'end-of-buffer)
>>>
>>> Starting with a recent (last few months) org-mode version, the home
>>> and end keys are bound to be beginning of end of line when in org
>>> files.   This happens even if I do my keybinding after I load org.
>>> Can this rebinding be removed, or at least made optional?  I do not
>>> see why these keys are bound at all; these are regular emacs functions
>>> (not org-mode functions) so emacs (by default) and the user (by
>>> resetting the keys globally) can establish themselves what they want.
>>>
>>> Org-mode version 7.02trans (release_7.3.10.g7f79)
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Liam
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode

Re: Rebinding of home and end keys

[Achim Gratz]

Moreover, here's the commit message for that change:


--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
commit 668e28f4d050b80686937c4b7b8617f16d887ba0
Author: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
Date:   Fri Sep 25 08:03:23 2009 +0100

    Bind <home> and <end> to the org-specific commands
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---


Achim.
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Re: Rebinding of home and end keys

[Carsten Dominik]

On Nov 12, 2010, at 1:57 PM, Nick Dokos wrote:

> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> is there a git wizard who can find out when these lines were
>> introduced in org.el.
>>
>> (define-key org-mode-map [home] 'org-beginning-of-line)
>> (define-key org-mode-map [end]  'org-end-of-line)
>>
>> Maybe the commit message does explain why that was done?
>>
>
> Probably not, but if anybody would know, it'd be you :-)

Indeed, this commit message shows that I had absolutely no reason  
worth mentioning to do this - so I will just take it back.

Actually I vaguely remember that on some systems [home] and [end] do  
indeed line motions, not buffer motions.  I even vaguely remember that  
someone asked for this change.  But I cannot find the message.  And I  
don't think the bindings make sense, to I have taken them out.

- Carsten


>
> ,----
> | commit 668e28f4d050b80686937c4b7b8617f16d887ba0
> | Author: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
> | Date:   Fri Sep 25 08:03:23 2009 +0100
> |
> |     Bind <home> and <end> to the org-specific commands
> |
> | diff --git a/lisp/ChangeLog b/lisp/ChangeLog
> | index 81326e4..ba96911 100755
> | --- a/lisp/ChangeLog
> | +++ b/lisp/ChangeLog
> | @@ -3,6 +3,7 @@
> |  	* org.el (org-special-ctrl-a/e): Improve documentation and
> |  	customize type.
> |  	(org-end-of-line): Don't jump to after the ellipsis.
> | +	(org-mode-map): Bind <home> and <end> as well.
> |
> |  2009-09-24  Carsten Dominik  <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
> |
> | diff --git a/lisp/org.el b/lisp/org.el
> | index a700c4d..b460420 100644
> | --- a/lisp/org.el
> | +++ b/lisp/org.el
> | @@ -16631,6 +16631,8 @@ beyond the end of the headline."
> |
> |  (define-key org-mode-map "\C-a" 'org-beginning-of-line)
> |  (define-key org-mode-map "\C-e" 'org-end-of-line)
> | +(define-key org-mode-map [home] 'org-beginning-of-line)
> | +(define-key org-mode-map [end]  'org-end-of-line)
> |
> |  (defun org-backward-sentence (&optional arg)
> |    "Go to beginning of sentence, or beginning of table field.
> `----
>
> BTW, the commands were
>
> grep -n '\[home]' lisp/org.el
>   to get a line number
>
> git blame -L 19010,1911 lisp/org.el
>   this fingers 668e28f4
>
> git show 668e28f4
>
> HTH,
> Nick