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From: "Sébastien Vauban" <wxhgmqzgwmuf-geNee64TY+gS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>
To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Dumbquotes in exported source listings
Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 22:26:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <80bozmkw0n.fsf@somewhere.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 11009.1304276930@alphaville.americas.hpqcorp.net

Hi Nick,

Nick Dokos wrote:
> Ben Finney <ben+emacs-TqlCGjI+HWGnbCmf7pGUHw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> Avdi Grimm <groups-btwTPOiEE706sZKW81CQKw@public.gmane.org> writes:
>>
>> Nowadays with Unicode available ubiquitously we can simply use the
>> correct typographical quotation marks directly in the plain text file,
>> but TeX and some other legacy systems don't work very well with Unicode.

I really hate those "smart quotes", better named "dumb quotes", because:

- I don't find them attractive at all, but that's personal, and could depend
  on font families, etc.

- they're not correctly converted when playing with the coding system: from
  UTF-8 to Latin 1, for example. That's really nasty.

I was/am planning to have a function for converting them on the fly when
pasting... or when saving the Org buffer... or at any better moment. Though, I
didn't get the right code to do so yet...

> AFAIK, TeX works fine with UTF8, given the defaults that org-mode export uses.
> What problems do you see?

UTF-8 is correctly handled in LaTeX documents, but not in every environment:
Listings has problems, even if a Listings exist for UTF-8, and so for many
other environments.

So I would say that UTF-8 usage is still not yet fully supported in TeX.

Best regards,
  Seb

-- 
Sébastien Vauban

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-01 20:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-30 23:39 Dumbquotes in exported source listings Avdi Grimm
2011-05-01  3:13 ` Ben Finney
2011-05-01 16:41   ` Avdi Grimm
2011-05-01 19:08   ` Nick Dokos
2011-05-01 20:26     ` Sébastien Vauban [this message]
2011-05-01 21:31       ` Nick Dokos
2011-05-01 21:40       ` Ben Finney
2011-05-01 21:27     ` Ben Finney
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-04-27 20:57 Missing Introduction and About sections in LaTeX export Avdi Grimm
2011-04-27 22:21 ` Avdi Grimm
2011-04-28 11:06   ` Eric S Fraga
     [not found] ` <groups@inbox.avdi.org>
2011-04-27 21:41   ` Nick Dokos
2011-04-27 21:47     ` Avdi Grimm
2011-04-27 22:23       ` Nick Dokos
2011-04-28  7:55         ` Sébastien Vauban
2011-04-28 11:36           ` Nick Dokos
2011-05-01 19:04   ` Dumbquotes in exported source listings Nick Dokos

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