agenda view: global todo list

agenda view: global todo list

[William H. Daffer]

Hi;

I'm relatively new to org-mode, I'm liking what I see so far, but I have 
two questions.

I'm using emacs  23.2.1, org-mode 6.33x

I have org-todo-keywords set to

((sequence "TODO(t!)" "ANALYSIS(a!)" "FEEDBACK(f@)" "VERIFY(v!)" 
"WAIT(w@/!)" "|" "DONE(d@)" "DELEGATED(e@)" "CANCELLED(c@)"))



and I have a org-remember-template set up to capture (among other 
things) random TODOs into a file named 'todo.org'.




1. In Global TODO agenda view (C-a t) the '# r' 'redo' command confuses 
me a bit.

In the menu at the top of the view, '0 r' maps to 'ALL' and '1 r' to the 
list of unclosed TODOs, yet they both produce the same listing for me. I 
was expecting '0 r' to produce a listing of all TODO's, whatever state 
they were in.  This may just be a misunderstanding of what 'ALL' really 
means: is 'ALL' just a synonym for 'TODO'?


2. With org-todo-keywords defined as above... Regarding the interaction 
of 'remember' and 'org-todo-keywords.

When I go to capture a TODO using remember, unless I set org-log-done to 
'note (though I haven't tried setting it to 'time)  org-mode doesn't 
seem to know about org-todo-keywords (even though C-hv shows that it's 
defined),  no logging happens, and the TODOs in todo.org have only the 2 
default states.

When I do (setq org-log-done 'note), remember fails to log the initial 
change _into_ the  TODO state, unlike what happens inside of any other 
org-mode file when I hit C-cC-t, it will only do so when I change state 
using C-cC-t, either in the note after I've filed it using C-cC-c, or 
while composing the TODO in the remember buffer.

This last happenstance does leave me with a work-around: after starting 
to compose a remember TODO, and while still in the 'remember' buffer, I 
can do C-cC-t to change the state from TODO to TODO, (and then change 
the first TODO to "", if I'm feeling fastidious) and that will log the 
time of the start of the TODO. All subsequent changes to the state will 
be handled just as with any other TODO. So, the question is: is this 
just the way things are with remember and org-todo-keywords?

Finally, thanks to all for their good work on this mode. It's pretty 
fabulous!

TIA

whd

Re: agenda view: global todo list

[Sebastien Vauban]

Hi William,

"William H. Daffer" wrote:
> I'm relatively new to org-mode, I'm liking what I see so far, but I have two
> questions.

Welcome, then!

> I'm using emacs  23.2.1, org-mode 6.33x
>
> I have org-todo-keywords set to
>
> ((sequence "TODO(t!)" "ANALYSIS(a!)" "FEEDBACK(f@)" "VERIFY(v!)" "WAIT(w@/!)"
> "|" "DONE(d@)" "DELEGATED(e@)" "CANCELLED(c@)"))
>
> and I have a org-remember-template set up to capture (among other things)
> random TODOs into a file named 'todo.org'.
>
> 1. In Global TODO agenda view (C-a t) the '# r' 'redo' command confuses me a
> bit.
>
> In the menu at the top of the view, '0 r' maps to 'ALL' and '1 r' to the list
> of unclosed TODOs, yet they both produce the same listing for me. I was
> expecting '0 r' to produce a listing of all TODO's, whatever state they were
> in.  This may just be a misunderstanding of what 'ALL' really means: is 'ALL'
> just a synonym for 'TODO'?

ALL is supposed to mean all todo keywords (= TODO, ANALYSIS, FEEDBACK, etc.).
TODO is one of them, in your case.

Please provide us with an ECM (complete minimal example) to help us reproduce
your problem.

You can hard-code in that file the authorized TODO states with the #+SEQ_TODO
"property".


> 2. With org-todo-keywords defined as above... Regarding the interaction of
> remember' and 'org-todo-keywords.
>
> When I go to capture a TODO using remember, unless I set org-log-done to 'note
> (though I haven't tried setting it to 'time)  org-mode doesn't seem to know
> about org-todo-keywords (even though C-hv shows that it's defined),  no
> logging happens, and the TODOs in todo.org have only the 2 default states.
>
> When I do (setq org-log-done 'note), remember fails to log the initial change
> _into_ the  TODO state, unlike what happens inside of any other org-mode file
> when I hit C-cC-t, it will only do so when I change state using C-cC-t, either
> in the note after I've filed it using C-cC-c, or while composing the TODO in
> the remember buffer.
>
> This last happenstance does leave me with a work-around: after starting to
> compose a remember TODO, and while still in the 'remember' buffer, I can do
> C-cC-t to change the state from TODO to TODO, (and then change the first TODO
> to "", if I'm feeling fastidious) and that will log the time of the start of
> the TODO. All subsequent changes to the state will be handled just as with any
> other TODO. So, the question is: is this just the way things are with remember
> and org-todo-keywords?

First remark: migrate away from "remember". Use the new interface called
"org-capture".

Then, try to reproduce your problem. But, it shouldn't exist: you can change
the state, within a capture session, of the TODO keyword:

- with C-c C-t, as you say
- with shift + left/right arrow.

Best regards,
  Seb

-- 
Sebastien Vauban

Re: agenda view: global todo list

[Giovanni Ridolfi]

"Sebastien Vauban" <wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com> writes:

> Hi William,
>
> "William H. Daffer" wrote:
>> I'm relatively new to org-mode, I'm liking what I see so far, but I have two
>> questions.
>
> Welcome, then!
>
>> I'm using emacs  23.2.1, org-mode 6.33x

ops! William, this is quite old. please consider update to version 7.6.
You can download it from the orgmode.org site,

and migrate your remember templates to capture templates, as Sebastien
suggested.  From the manual:

  To convert your `org-remember-templates', run the command
     M-x org-capture-import-remember-templates <RET>
    and *then customize* 
  the new variable with `M-x customize-variable org-capture-templates', 
  check the result, and save the customization.
  You can then use both remember and capture until you are familiar with
  the new mechanism.

cheers,
Giovanni

Re: agenda view: global todo list

[Memnon Anon]

"Sebastien Vauban"
<wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com> writes:

> "William H. Daffer" wrote:
>> I'm relatively new to org-mode, I'm liking what I see so far, but I have two
>> questions.
[...]
>> I'm using emacs  23.2.1, org-mode 6.33x
[...]
> First remark: migrate away from "remember". Use the new interface called
> "org-capture".

,----[ (org) Capture in the 7.6 org manual] 
|  Up to version 6.36 Org used a special setup for `remember.el'.  
| `org-remember.el' is still part of Org-mode for backward compatibility 
| with existing setups.  
`----

So to get away from remember, he will have to upgrade org first.
... Which is highly recommended of course ;).

Memnon