From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Sebastien Vauban" Subject: Re: From latest maint/master, no need to (require 'org-install) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 21:23:34 +0200 Message-ID: <801uh74fgp.fsf@somewhere.org> References: <87boglvwur.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87sj9vj4a1.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87zk43419r.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <80ipap2tx9.fsf@somewhere.org> <87y5jjt550.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87y5jibteg.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <80ehl8jg9q.fsf@somewhere.org> <80sj9o85ke.fsf@somewhere.org> <87haq3y1tj.fsf@Rainer.invalid> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Hi Achim, Achim Gratz wrote: > Sebastien Vauban writes: >> Starting Emacs now requires ~18 seconds vs 2 seconds before. > > That is one of the consequences of how org.el is currently structured. > If you know exactly what you're doing when in your init file, you can at > the moment still do a > > (require 'org-loaddefs) > > where you formerly did require org-install. Good to know... > Of course this will then not work if you fall back to the built-in Org > version of an old Emacs, so maybe you'd want > > (require 'org-loaddefs nil 'noerror) I guess the risk of falling to the built-in Org version is no bigger than it was with org-install? Anyway, I always protect all require's of stuff which can be absent from some distribution (as my .emacs is used by colleagues). > I'm not sure how Bastien wants this to work going forward, but by the > way it's been announced and implemented the need to do this should go > away. OK. We'll see with him as soon as he comes back online. Best regards, Seb -- Sebastien Vauban