From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
To: Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com>
Cc: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: org-insert-heading rewritten from scratch
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 14:04:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7F861E6F-B668-4D9E-A684-37610C5BF93D@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a9jxlzsa.fsf@gmail.com>
Hi Nioclas,
thank you for the feedback.
On 1.9.2013, at 10:19, Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On 31.8.2013, at 16:34, Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Not really a bug, but I find some behaviour surprising: when at a the
>>> beginning of a regular text line, there is no way to create a headline
>>> just above it. In the following example:
>>>
>>> XCursor is at "X"
>>>
>>> Neither M-RET, C-u M-RET, C-RET nor C-u C-RET can do it. Is it intended?
>>
>> Which behavior would you propose? I guess you mean that, at the beginning of a line,
>> the result is so different for normal lines versus headlines?
>
> Yes.
>
> I never, ever, want to turn a regular text line into a headline. OTOH
> during note taking, I very often write paragraphs and, afterwards,
> decide to split them into sections.
OK, I'll go along with this. `C-c *' if for turning a line into a headline,
M-RET for making a *new* headline. That is logical. Fixed now.
>
> Moreover, AFAICT, there's no more difference between C-u M-RET, which
> meant "create headline right here" and M-RET.
C-u means: Do not ask org-insert-item, just go ahead and insert a heading.
That is supposed to be the only difference.
>
>> The way I was thinking about the behavior at the beginning of a non-headline
>> is that it is the same as in the middle of a line: Take the rest of the line
>> and turn it into a headline.p
>>
>> To create a headline before a nonempty line, I use `C-o M-RET'
>
> That's what I do. But that's not optimal and it introduces another
> problem. In the following example
>
> * H
>
> XText
>
> I want to create a headline above "Text" and point is at "X". I use C-o
> M-RET and the latter greedily eat the blank line above, resulting in
>
> * H
> * X
> Text
>
> as if I had typed C-p M-RET instead.
>
> Again, I have `org-blank-before-new-entry' set to `auto' for headlines.
> Since there is no information about how many blank lines I usually want
> before headlines, I think the algorithm should trust me and do not
> remove any blank lines (see `org-list-separating-blank-lines-number').
I believe this is now better, please check.
>
> In the same vein, in the following situation
>
> * H1
>
> Text1
>
> * H2
>
> XText2
>
> C-o M-RET should leave blank above "Text2" because it has information
> about my preferences.
I think this is fixed as well.
>
> Oddly, in an empty buffer, it will create a blank line above.
Fixed.
>
>>> Also in this case, I think C-RET should create the new headline _after_
>>> the subtree, since that's its whole point anyway, AFAIU.
>>
>> That is what happens for me. It does not for you?
>
> It does, sorry about the noise.
>
>> Hmm, I do find this behavior consistent. M-RET does not change the number
>> of while lines after the current, only before, in order to either have
>> an empty line or not.
>>
>> Which behavior would you propose?
>
> Well same as above: I think it eats blank lines where it shouldn't. It
> the following cases:
>
> * H1
>
> ** H2
>
> H
> X
>
> and
>
> * H1
>
> * H2
>
> H
>
> X
>
> I don't think there's any reason for M-RET to eat blank line before
> point with either `org-blank-before-new-entry' set to `auto' or t. It
> should know that a blank line is expected before the new entry and
> therefore should create the headline at point.
Please take another look.
Thank you!
- Carsten
>
>>> I also suggest to write function specifications as tests in test-org.el.
>>
>> Yes, I have yet to write my first test. Need to figure out how that
>> works.
>
> That's simple. You can use the following pattern:
>
> (ert-deftest test-org/insert-heading ()
> "Test specifications for heading insertion."
> ;; In an empty buffer, headline should be created at its beginning,
> ;; notwithstanding value for `org-blank-before-new-entry'.
> (should
> (equal "* "
> (org-test-with-temp-text ""
> (let ((org-blank-before-new-entry '((heading . nil))))
> (org-insert-heading))
> (buffer-string))))
> (should
> (equal "* "
> (org-test-with-temp-text ""
> (let ((org-blank-before-new-entry '((heading . t))))
> (org-insert-heading))
> (buffer-string))))
> (should
> (equal "* "
> (org-test-with-temp-text ""
> (let ((org-blank-before-new-entry '((heading . auto))))
> (org-insert-heading))
> (buffer-string))))
> ;; At the end of a single headline: Create headline below, following
> ;; `org-blank-before-new-entry' specifications. When it is `auto',
> ;; since there's not enough information to deduce what is expected,
> ;; create it just below.
> (should
> (equal "* H\n* "
> (org-test-with-temp-text "* H"
> (end-of-line)
> (let ((org-blank-before-new-entry '((heading . nil))))
> (org-insert-heading))
> (buffer-string))))
> (should
> (equal "* H\n\n* "
> (org-test-with-temp-text "* H"
> (end-of-line)
> (let ((org-blank-before-new-entry '((heading . t))))
> (org-insert-heading))
> (buffer-string))))
> (should
> (equal "* H\n* "
> (org-test-with-temp-text "* H"
> (end-of-line)
> (let ((org-blank-before-new-entry '((heading . auto))))
> (org-insert-heading))
> (buffer-string))))
> ;; Etc.
> )
>
> I suggest to always put the `should' (or `should-not', `should-error')
> outside each test: it makes it easier to inspect results from partial
> evaluations.
>
> You run each test individually with C-x C-e at the end of the `should'
> sexp. You run all tests with "make test" from "org/" directory.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Nicolas Goaziou
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-09-01 12:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-08-08 6:43 org-insert-heading rewritten from scratch Carsten Dominik
2013-08-08 7:41 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2013-08-31 14:00 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-08-31 14:34 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-01 6:13 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-01 8:19 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-01 12:04 ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
2013-09-01 12:25 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-03 13:16 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-03 13:25 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-03 13:33 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-03 13:38 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-03 13:47 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-03 13:58 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-03 14:04 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-03 14:12 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-07 10:50 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-07 12:01 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-01 2:38 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2013-09-01 3:11 ` Samuel Wales
2013-09-01 3:13 ` Samuel Wales
2013-09-09 16:42 ` Michael Brand
2013-09-09 19:10 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-09 20:37 ` Michael Brand
2013-09-12 20:20 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-12 20:52 ` Michael Brand
2013-09-12 20:58 ` Carsten Dominik
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