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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: sebastien.miquel@posteo.eu Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1653980164; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=xmZYzxYOL2Eev09YmnSkAbZwXeF1+X9R6QT2HIFOTaw=; b=Ei4/r8+lH8iQunL2/6wG98h/tDRz3uli66RnoPIO50vZdNb3K4rpt7kCxT7GdnAxwue5K7 29U97gxM/JZeNg3QfMA16I11/1tYz7WUEVlzA9LjLkbeLnx7w2FKQYnPGCjk6kOWJZ9ZUx 8p7RRgniGvwv5WgLQd8AckFodVg7Nf7G3NEGRhIVpYq6JFFNVvE4C3PFD8WPCl+K6T0fb+ bzq1N2Qh/zzYk0/LMwaeHZL16jbyCGy1amru04/d24auQgzz+M8W5ZKCPShEh4fiUXsPDY Ge60XVD8wFoebjNpFIPDleQWRBANxdSYKmdwM4M4f+H2mwpL47xhdxppIGnGiA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1653980164; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Oj6o2mB1hxlYWrcTDX/Tyi5Bxu6l7NN6M27ceAzUfTrh7Fp63O1dhwr9ZBKmi224sH5i/u jV4znetarqaN2TZz6u4bvfsVmttQzDRKmsu1FoODF6NF51fUBkGN3WMMjbySHgVTU6hI6X Vrs+OmaEficHMZeWfx7tH4WekY3WqOsyiql/WwL/C+9qG+g4sW82Wyyh1aiQe35haY6U/A E3vF/QEp22alDDcExkckejzUmMZCjuhEyk0UBDIvuw2uX0NHNkJ/CcyEdDltpwJfFtRNl7 3EuRVjUQwocoDcLj4Re7cwO+dOpsBap3fNB61mrrsSk3Nurx505YxK1yDo8ybA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.eu header.s=2017 header.b=pZCqOvix; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.eu; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.24 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.eu header.s=2017 header.b=pZCqOvix; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.eu; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: DF7523963 X-Spam-Score: -4.24 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: 600RwdUYJRHE This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------ROI44gREjU6IfAEs6nQVsQTX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, Ihor Radchenko writes: > Can you provide more concrete examples? > >> Some drawbacks: >>  + doesn't work for all languages (does work for LaTeX) > Which languages do not work? Most languages do not work. Using your proposed solution, what I'm trying to do is #+name:javascript-header #+begin_src javascript :tangle no some javascript, with \ and " to be escaped #+end_src #+name: string-escape #+begin_src emacs-lisp :var str="" :tangle no (prin1-to-string (string-trim-right str)) #+end_src #+begin_src emacs-lisp :noweb yes :tangle yes (setq javascript-header <>) #+end_src If you replace javascript with latex, it happens to work, because when org executes a latex block, it prints its content. The goal is to tangle to some lisp code whose purpose is to generate LaTeX/javascript code. Quite niche admittedly, though as you showed, it could also be used to string-escape documentation. >>  + the tangle gets very noisy: not only are the result of execution >>    printed in the echo buffer, but emacs visits the tangling buffer >>    and moves the point to each block. >>    Perhaps this is a bug that can be fixed. > Did you try to play with :results header argument to disable messages? > What exactly went unexpected? I did. I might have missed something, but no combination of :results argument to both the latex block and the string-escape block silences the tangle (except for :results none, which doesn't tangle the content of the block). During tangle, the contents of the latex block are displayed (shortly) in the echo buffer (check *Messages*), and the point very briefly moves to the latex block. This isn't very noticeable with a single block. >>  + src block execution also resets the noweb cache, slowing down >>    tangle, though I have not tried to measure the effect. > I am not sure what you are referring to here. Can you elaborate? Lines 2892-2893 of (my) ob-core.el, in org-babel-expand-noweb-references: >              ;; Evaluation can potentially modify the buffer >              ;; and invalidate the cache: reset it. Regards, -- Sébastien Miquel --------------ROI44gREjU6IfAEs6nQVsQTX Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi,

Ihor Radchenko writes:
Can you provide more concrete examples?


Some drawbacks:
  + doesn't work for all languages (does work for LaTeX)

Which languages do not work?
Most languages do not work. Using your proposed solution, what I'm
trying to do is

#+name:javascript-header
#+begin_src javascript :tangle no
some javascript, with \ and " to be escaped
#+end_src

#+name: string-escape
#+begin_src emacs-lisp :var str="" :tangle no
(prin1-to-string (string-trim-right str))
#+end_src

#+begin_src emacs-lisp :noweb yes :tangle yes
(setq javascript-header <<string-escape(str=javascript-header)>>)
#+end_src

If you replace javascript with latex, it happens to work, because when
org executes a latex block, it prints its content.

The goal is to tangle to some lisp code whose purpose is to generate
LaTeX/javascript code. Quite niche admittedly, though as you showed,
it could also be used to string-escape documentation. 

  + the tangle gets very noisy: not only are the result of execution
    printed in the echo buffer, but emacs visits the tangling buffer
    and moves the point to each block.
    Perhaps this is a bug that can be fixed.

Did you try to play with :results header argument to disable messages?
What exactly went unexpected?

I did. I might have missed something, but no combination of :results
argument to both the latex block and the string-escape block silences
the tangle (except for :results none, which doesn't tangle the content
of the block). During tangle, the contents of the latex block are
displayed (shortly) in the echo buffer (check *Messages*), and the
point very briefly moves to the latex block. This isn't very
noticeable with a single block.
  + src block execution also resets the noweb cache, slowing down
    tangle, though I have not tried to measure the effect.

I am not sure what you are referring to here. Can you elaborate?

Lines 2892-2893 of (my) ob-core.el, in org-babel-expand-noweb-references:

             ;; Evaluation can potentially modify the buffer
             ;; and invalidate the cache: reset it.

Regards,

-- 
Sébastien Miquel
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