From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode usage and concept mapping. Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 11:21:31 +0200 Message-ID: <7449a61b31b9cda26a9074e7ba81ad25@science.uva.nl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GN4Ss-0006lh-M9 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 05:21:58 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GN4Sq-0006j1-QE for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 05:21:57 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GN4Sq-0006iq-HD for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 05:21:56 -0400 Received: from [64.233.162.196] (helo=nz-out-0102.google.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GN4UJ-0000oJ-3g for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 05:23:27 -0400 Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id z31so731212nzd for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 02:21:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Alex Bochannek Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On Sep 11, 2006, at 5:51, Alex Bochannek wrote: >> 3. tables (org-mode frees me from having to use a "real" spreadsheet; >> what a relief) > > Example 2 is what I think a lot (most?) people use Org-mode for. The > tables I totally forgot about when I wrote my last email, but I have > used them as well when trying to document some problems. I always > wondered, tables seem like a bit of feature creep to me. They are very > useful and I am sure Carsten implemented them for a reason, but with > SES and Calc, I wonder if they aren't acquiring too much in terms of > spreadsheet functionality. :-) I have to comment on this. I would easily plead guilty for feature creep as far as the "advanced calculation features" (manual section 3.3.4) are concerned. These I implemented mostly because it was fun and a challenge to do so. (I myself certainly do use a lot the simple calculation features, the ones that just use one formula for each column, but for complicated tables also I use spreadsheets (not SES, though.)) However, the basic table support is a completely different story, and for me is an essential and critical feature of Org-mode. Tables are the main reason why I use Org-mode as my default major mode in emacs - fundamental and text mode I actually never use anymore, because I want to have the table support to easily write columns of date, arrange things nicely and quickly. - Carsten -- Carsten Dominik Sterrenkundig Instituut "Anton Pannekoek" Universiteit van Amsterdam Kruislaan 403 NL-1098SJ Amsterdam phone: +31 20 525 7477