From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Greg Newman Subject: emacs on the iPhone Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:10:02 -0400 Message-ID: <71454fac0907201110w7f1fcc9ap5d9d0f3fb6d5371f@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0112921740==" Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MSxJk-0003e7-Ch for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:10:28 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MSxJf-0003dk-PB for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:10:27 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59705 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MSxJf-0003dh-I4 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:10:23 -0400 Received: from mail-vw0-f201.google.com ([209.85.212.201]:38061) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MSxJf-0001d7-7x for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:10:23 -0400 Received: by vwj39 with SMTP id 39so2185502vwj.14 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:10:22 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode emacs-orgmode --===============0112921740== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636284cfe2a268b046f270dd6 --001636284cfe2a268b046f270dd6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For those that are interested (and don't already know), there are a few apps out now for secure shell on the iphone. The one I'm using is issh by zingersoft. http://www.zinger-soft.com/iSSH_features.html So far I've had good luck with it and hopefully later this week will have time to poke a hole in my router to try connecting to my mac so I can give org-mode a try with it. I have successfully run emacs and irssi from my server but it's not setup for org. If anyone does give it a try before I report back please fill me/us in. Cheers, *Greg Newman* http://20seven.org twitter: 20seven --001636284cfe2a268b046f270dd6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For those that are interested (and don't already know), there are a few= apps out now for secure shell on the iphone. =C2=A0The one I'm using i= s issh by zingersoft.=C2=A0http://www.zinger-soft.com/iSSH_features.html

So far I've had good luck with it and hopefully later th= is week will have time to poke a hole in my router to try connecting to my = mac so I can give org-mode a try with it. =C2=A0I have successfully run ema= cs and irssi from my server but it's not setup for org.

If anyone does give it a try before I report back pleas= e fill me/us in.

Cheers,

=


Greg Newman

http://20seven.org

tw= itter: 20seven

--001636284cfe2a268b046f270dd6-- --===============0112921740== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode --===============0112921740==-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Sven Bretfeld" Subject: Re: emacs on the iPhone Date: 21 Jul 2009 08:36:45 +0200 Message-ID: <87fxcqiltu.fsf@gmx.ch> References: <71454fac0907201110w7f1fcc9ap5d9d0f3fb6d5371f@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MT8y7-0001Uy-Hx for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:36:55 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MT8y2-0001Um-4f for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:36:54 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42168 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MT8y1-0001Uj-VD for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:36:49 -0400 Received: from mx2.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de ([134.147.64.30]:35339) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MT8y1-0006gQ-Dl for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:36:49 -0400 In-Reply-To: <71454fac0907201110w7f1fcc9ap5d9d0f3fb6d5371f@mail.gmail.com> (Greg Newman's message of "Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:10:02 -0400") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode emacs-orgmode Greg Newman writes: > For those that are interested (and don't already know), there are a > few apps out now for secure shell on the iphone. =C2=A0The one I'm using = is > issh by zingersoft.=C2=A0 http://www.zinger-soft.com/iSSH_features.html > > So far I've had good luck with it and hopefully later this week will > have time to poke a hole in my router to try connecting to my mac so I > can give org-mode a try with it. =C2=A0I have successfully run emacs and > irssi from my server but it's not setup for org. I got a HTC Magic running Android a few weeks ago. There is a free powerful and fast ssh application called ConnectBot available in the Android Market. ConnectBot can handle ssh keys and lets you put an icon for frequently used connections on the desktop. Connecting to my PC and starting emacsclient -t via a bash-alias (`ec') takes about 5 seconds from everywhere. I think running (and working with) a native Emacs on the phone itself (which isn't available anyway) could never be much faster. Gnus and Org-mode are ready to go. And no need to synchronize. This is the solution I always dreamed of and more than once asked about in this list. I can very much recommend Android (even if its relationship to Google can be annoying). For those who want to give it a try: In ConnectBot CTRL is pressing the mouse ball once, META (ESC) is pressing it twice. TAB is twice pressing the mouse ball and hitting SPC. To expand a tree in an org file you have to set org-cycle to a key. Of course, you should have an internet flatrate if you want to write your PhD thesis that way ;-). Greetings Sven --=20 Sven Bretfeld \ CEntrum f=C3=BCr CERES \ REligionswissenschaftliche ________\_Studien__________________ Ruhr-Universit=C3=A4t Bochum Universit=C3=A4tsstra=C3=9Fe 150 D-44780 Bochum http://www.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/relwiss/Lehrstuhl/Mitarbeitende/Bretfeld.html From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Michael Zeller Subject: Re: emacs on the iPhone Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:54:48 -0700 Message-ID: <87prbt7ton.fsf@zeller.michaelzeller.com> References: <71454fac0907201110w7f1fcc9ap5d9d0f3fb6d5371f@mail.gmail.com> <87fxcqiltu.fsf@gmx.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MTKVE-0000Kg-Ha for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:55:52 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MTKV9-0000FB-EL for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:55:51 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59376 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MTKV9-0000EO-0W for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:55:47 -0400 Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com ([209.85.220.223]:40348) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MTKV7-0000v5-Uv for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:55:46 -0400 Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so862040fxm.42 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:55:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87fxcqiltu.fsf@gmx.ch> (Sven Bretfeld's message of "21 Jul 2009 08:36:45 +0200") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Sven Bretfeld Cc: emacs-orgmode emacs-orgmode "Sven Bretfeld" writes: > > Connecting to my PC and starting emacsclient -t via a bash-alias (`ec') > takes about 5 seconds from everywhere. I think running (and working > with) a native Emacs on the phone itself (which isn't available anyway) > could never be much faster. Gnus and Org-mode are ready to go. And no > need to synchronize. As an aside, you could actually run emacs natively on the g1. I've followed the instructions from Jay Freeman (http://www.saurik.com/id/10, seems to be down though, try using the Google cache) for installing Debian on the g1 (on your SD card -- I recommend getting an 8GB card). After you've installed Debian you run openssh and connect to localhost using ConnectBot. Even better, you could install xorg and run emacs using AndroidVNC in X, although I've found this to be much slower. Although, "theoretically" you could use a browser such as Conkeror in X to follow http links, although this is extremely slow for me. You're better off with w3m-el, until newer hardware comes out. Also note that the keyboard under AndroidVNC is not as nice as ConnectBot's layout. > > This is the solution I always dreamed of and more than once asked about > in this list. I can very much recommend Android (even if its > relationship to Google can be annoying). I also recommend Android. > > For those who want to give it a try: In ConnectBot CTRL is pressing the > mouse ball once, META (ESC) is pressing it twice. TAB is twice pressing > the mouse ball and hitting SPC. To expand a tree in an org file you have > to set org-cycle to a key. Of course, you should have an internet > flatrate if you want to write your PhD thesis that way ;-). With my solution, you don't need to drop all of that money on an internet plan, but you would need to sync your org files. For using the g1 without a plan, just buy a prepaid SIM card and connect using adb shell when registering the phone and execute: am start -a android.intent.action.MAIN -n com.android.settings/.Settings to bring up the Wifi settings and register without buying a dataplan. I spend about $10 a month prepaid and use Skype for everything else. > > Greetings > > Sven Thanks, ~Michael Zeller From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Greg Newman Subject: Re: emacs on the iPhone Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:10:35 -0400 Message-ID: <71454fac0907211310v15d3a522r4083c86325d45961@mail.gmail.com> References: <71454fac0907201110w7f1fcc9ap5d9d0f3fb6d5371f@mail.gmail.com> <87fxcqiltu.fsf@gmx.ch> <87prbt7ton.fsf@zeller.michaelzeller.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0024117828==" Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MTLfw-0006MO-LU for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:11:00 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MTLfs-0006LZ-Qn for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:11:00 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56579 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MTLfs-0006LV-NH for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:10:56 -0400 Received: from mail-qy0-f183.google.com ([209.85.221.183]:41998) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MTLfs-0007P0-8Y for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:10:56 -0400 Received: by qyk13 with SMTP id 13so2955734qyk.14 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:10:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87prbt7ton.fsf@zeller.michaelzeller.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Michael Zeller Cc: emacs-orgmode emacs-orgmode --===============0024117828== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364edb7e2267ee046f3cda05 --0016364edb7e2267ee046f3cda05 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Man, you guys are making me want and android phone.I sat in a cafe with a friend who grep'd his mail server from his g1 and was impressed. On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Michael Zeller < michael.dylan.zeller@gmail.com> wrote: > "Sven Bretfeld" writes: > > > > > Connecting to my PC and starting emacsclient -t via a bash-alias (`ec') > > takes about 5 seconds from everywhere. I think running (and working > > with) a native Emacs on the phone itself (which isn't available anyway) > > could never be much faster. Gnus and Org-mode are ready to go. And no > > need to synchronize. > > As an aside, you could actually run emacs natively on the g1. I've > followed the instructions from Jay Freeman (http://www.saurik.com/id/10, > seems to be down though, try using the Google cache) for installing > Debian on the g1 (on your SD card -- I recommend getting an 8GB > card). After you've installed Debian you run openssh and connect to > localhost using ConnectBot. > > Even better, you could install xorg and run emacs using AndroidVNC in X, > although I've found this to be much slower. Although, "theoretically" > you could use a browser such as Conkeror in X to follow http links, > although this is extremely slow for me. You're better off with w3m-el, > until newer hardware comes out. Also note that the keyboard under > AndroidVNC is not as nice as ConnectBot's layout. > > > > > This is the solution I always dreamed of and more than once asked about > > in this list. I can very much recommend Android (even if its > > relationship to Google can be annoying). > > I also recommend Android. > > > > > For those who want to give it a try: In ConnectBot CTRL is pressing the > > mouse ball once, META (ESC) is pressing it twice. TAB is twice pressing > > the mouse ball and hitting SPC. To expand a tree in an org file you have > > to set org-cycle to a key. Of course, you should have an internet > > flatrate if you want to write your PhD thesis that way ;-). > > With my solution, you don't need to drop all of that money on an > internet plan, but you would need to sync your org files. For using the > g1 without a plan, just buy a prepaid SIM card and connect using adb > shell when registering the phone and execute: > > am start -a android.intent.action.MAIN -n com.android.settings/.Settings > > to bring up the Wifi settings and register without buying a dataplan. I > spend about $10 a month prepaid and use Skype for everything else. > > > > > Greetings > > > > Sven > > Thanks, > ~Michael Zeller > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > --0016364edb7e2267ee046f3cda05 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Man, you guys are making me want and android phone.
I sat in a cafe wit= h a friend who grep'd his mail server from his g1 and was impressed.
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Michael Ze= ller <michael.dylan.zeller@gmail.com> wrote:
"Sven Bretfeld"= <sven.bretfeld@gmx.ch> w= rites:

>
> Connecting to my PC and starting emacsclient -t via a bash-alias (`ec&= #39;)
> takes about 5 seconds from everywhere. I think running (and working > with) a native Emacs on the phone itself (which isn't available an= yway)
> could never be much faster. Gnus and Org-mode are ready to go. And no<= br> > need to synchronize.

As an aside, you could actually run emacs natively on the g1. I'v= e
followed the instructions from Jay Freeman (http://www.saurik.com/id/10,
seems to be down though, try using the Google cache) for installing
Debian on the g1 (on your SD card -- I recommend getting an 8GB
card). After you've installed Debian you run openssh and connect to
localhost using ConnectBot.

Even better, you could install xorg and run emacs using AndroidVNC in X, although I've found this to be much slower. Although, "theoretical= ly"
you could use a browser such as Conkeror in X to follow http links,
although this is extremely slow for me. You're better off with w3m-el,<= br> until newer hardware comes out. Also note that the keyboard under
AndroidVNC is not as nice as ConnectBot's layout.

>
> This is the solution I always dreamed of and more than once asked abou= t
> in this list. I can very much recommend Android (even if its
> relationship to Google can be annoying).

I also recommend Android.

>
> For those who want to give it a try: In ConnectBot CTRL is pressing th= e
> mouse ball once, META (ESC) is pressing it twice. TAB is twice pressin= g
> the mouse ball and hitting SPC. To expand a tree in an org file you ha= ve
> to set org-cycle to a key. Of course, you should have an internet
> flatrate if you want to write your PhD thesis that way ;-).

With my solution, you don't need to drop all of that money on an<= br> internet plan, but you would need to sync your org files. For using the
g1 without a plan, just buy a prepaid SIM card and connect using adb
shell when registering the phone and execute:

am start -a android.intent.action.MAIN -n com.android.settings/.Settings
to bring up the Wifi settings and register without buying a dataplan. I
spend about $10 a month prepaid and use Skype for everything else.

>
> Greetings
>
> Sven

Thanks,
~Michael Zeller


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