From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: lipidic man Subject: Re: Bug: Exporting smart single quotes in Org 8.3 seems broken [8.3.2 (8.3.2-elpa @ /Users/jonathan/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20150929/)] Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 13:55:34 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <703130448.9894083.1449410134279.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <87612owgsl.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Reply-To: lipidic man Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_9894082_366945941.1449410134276" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35781) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a5Zpv-0003I9-PS for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 08:58:49 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a5Zps-0002kp-Hr for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 08:58:47 -0500 Received: from nm44-vm9.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com ([67.195.87.214]:46144) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a5Zps-0002kl-9M for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 08:58:44 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87612owgsl.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Nicolas Goaziou , Rasmus Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" ------=_Part_9894082_366945941.1449410134276 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just a note that British-English often uses quotes the same way as the US.= =C2=A0 It is only in books that we use single outer quotes.=C2=A0 Newspaper= s and the BBC often use double quotes.=C2=A0 Headlines however use single q= uotes, though here they could just be typed manually. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_American_and_British_English#Qu= oting It might be appropriate to have the quote setting to be a separate choice f= rom the language, or have two options for en-GB (or we'd just use the US se= ttings, but I am not sure if it affects more than the quotations). Also, how should the user handle things like 36"?=C2=A0 Use a quotation mar= k and it affects following quotes, use a double prime and LaTeX throws an e= rror about unicode.=20 On Saturday, 3 October 2015, 8:30, Nicolas Goaziou wrote: =20 Rasmus writes: > Nicolas Goaziou writes: >> Also, I think it would be clearer to rename `opening-double-quote' to >> `opening-primary-quote' and `opening-single-quote' to >> `opening-secondary-quote'. WDYT? > > In fact, I thought they needed renaming as well in light of the > redefinition of " and '. I renamed `opening-double-quote' to `primary-opening' and `opening-closing-quote' to `secondary-opening'. Ditto for closing parts. Regards, ------=_Part_9894082_366945941.1449410134276 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just a note that British-English often uses quotes the sa= me way as the US.  It is only in books that we use single outer quotes= .  Newspapers and the BBC often use double quotes.  Headlines how= ever use single quotes, though here they could just be typed manually.


It might be appropriate to have the quote setting to be a separate choic= e from the language, or have two options for en-GB (or we'd just use the US= settings, but I am not sure if it affects more than the quotations).

<= div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1449408855421_4656">Also, how should the user handle things like 36"?  Use a = quotation mark and it affects following quotes, use a double prime and LaTe= X throws an error about unicode.



On Saturday, 3 October 2015, 8:= 30, Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> wrote:
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Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> writes:
> Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> write= s:
>> Also, I think it would be clearer to rename `opening-double-= quote' to
>> `opening-primary-quote' and `opening-single-quote' to=
>> `opening-secondary-quote'. WDYT?
>
> In fact, I th= ought they needed renaming as well in light of the
> redefinition of = " and '.

I renamed `opening-double-quote' to `primary-opening' and`opening-closing-quote' to `secondary-opening'. Ditto for closing parts.<= br>

Regards,



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