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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1671028807; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=uCvpWLJOOIqVgMfy6hv7UXGXEHGRX3PrnFZp+8LEdDE=; b=kGMtvU5PSBqUqm+83JTsmEEyp7P/X+1i+m0jSfAswa1igCi6TE4L8yVCsZWsuJELNVwHOP nSGBo5gPIiZjdhFSPBhxKA06D03n9XqvjP1qP9qFACPZZ7E526HLYK/F9zI0CDvSYuNmKX qp5k1b9pTlt7+pJKAJB59oKLvd91E08QTK2n1D3GuY1pFRL5XlqbJXMh8m01Y7l7lurN/E zQwX3BKGPAx2dHI2Bv96z80QaBMRAXfK8KVY6XO/z6lmPYm/ZgOGWKWAlFEs6R4Gj0bmLI shBv8cV8P+3SoRGKpyXaJPmhS2bYa8dxM+cU2j1TzKO0yY4GjFC5HW6/UXfpXw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=hzH+kLXv; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none) ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1671028807; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=ikw145Bb1fMavv6PsY9ckARpEsEUSE42V6fu6rwuPRTMuMuTezNrLRHMTpGDv/GFylbz5z 0kjTO9nXrBO1Xv+iZOUqrtI+8av2e/Q+zGSarqJvzTc2x0FxTwVDMd4A987wM4VqlDLNCG wd7lyNApNBZjmJEJ47SQuA5L9SHV2SQJ58IwrZvRSFmApPT5uenKuH2K/0Hk6nQyGdsDyb N6BwmiSuYeG7Tl+LxDUsG3MuUC8q3QslyXTzFzGEhYEDq4o5Apt7fX62y7OrDnicoMmprW RgSmdcLPpUIafqnLYwiSrvgYwDK8x1iT/7P7UDKmrPTadtaSghDHjMBBbqX4lQ== X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.67 X-Spam-Score: -0.67 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: A06B613252 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=hzH+kLXv; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none) X-TUID: cDu+ahG4qZbQ On 14/12/2022 17:20, Alain.Cochard wrote: > > my conclusion came from the fact that hitting 'C-h v' with the cursor > on 'org-goto-interface' provided nothing. It was the first time this > ever happened to me. I did try to explicitly enter the variable's > name by entering 'org-goto', which (like 'org-go') is not > enough: it is completed to 'org--goto'. I was confused by similar behavior as well, see Maxim Nikulin to emacs-orgmode. Bug? C-h v in src block since org-9.4. Wed, 28 Apr 2021 19:19:13 +0700. https://list.orgmode.org/s6bjs2$b0$1@ciao.gmane.io I think, help completion should include arguments of `register-definition-prefixes' from loaddefs files (till the related package is loaded), even if it may give some variants that has no functions or variables defined in a library. `customize-variable' should be consistent with describe-variable in respect to autoloading and completion option. Alain, are you motivated enough to search in emacs bug tracker and in emacs-devel mailing list archives if such options were considered? From my point of view it is better to improve completion than to modify the Org Manual just for org-goto. Feel free to add me as X-Debbugs-CC if you decide to create a feature request or a bug.