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Message-Id: <6F54EA7A-17B7-4A3B-B2DC-DAC0894E486D@sheijk.net> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 22:33:06 +0900 To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4XrsCP6g0kz9sly Received-SPF: permerror client-ip=2001:67c:2050:0:465::101; envelope-from=jan@sheijk.net; helo=mout-p-101.mailbox.org X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 09:04:54 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.81 X-Spam-Score: -0.81 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 840E866F1F X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-TUID: pbXsG+O1hYmd Hello, I wrote a package called org-menu which uses transient to add a discoverable menu to Orgmode. It's a bit of a mix of a modal editing mode or speed commands and a Magit style hierarchical menu to find less frequently used commands. I'd like to start a discussion here whether this plugin or similar functionality should be part of Orgmode before I block the name by getting it into nongnu elpa. See https://github.com/sheijk/org-menu for some screen shots and description. Some questions: - should this or similar functionality be part of Orgmode? At least the discoverability seems to be nice to have - what about overlap of the menu bar Orgmode already has. I think this is a general question about transient vs. menu bars. Maybe a generic solution to use transient to navigate the menu bar would be more useful? - should something in Orgmode also have the modal editing part integrated? For me that part is the most useful as I can use the transient for nearly all editing tasks and the move into the tasks for commands whose shortcuts I keep forgetting - would this need to be made more modular and extensible so it's different parts could be moved into the respective Orgmode parts (like column view features, etc.)? I'd be open to contributing this to Emacs/Orgmode but I'd also be happy to keep maintaining it as a separate package. Only thing I would like to avoid would be to strip parts of it's functionality as then I'd need to fork my own package Kind regards, Jan