* Expanded property drawers as per file option @ 2013-05-28 14:21 Karl Voit 2013-05-28 14:40 ` Thorsten Jolitz 2013-05-28 14:45 ` Thorsten Jolitz 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Karl Voit @ 2013-05-28 14:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Hi! I could not find anything yet which says that it's possible (or not) to define a file variable which enables PROPERTY drawers to be expanded (only in this current file). My use case: I usually never store major meta-data in drawers. So I like the default behavior with closed property drawers. Except in my "contacts.org" where I store basic data of persons I want to see. Therefore, I would like to have these drawers expanded whenever I expand the heading of a person. In other words: heading content expanded -> property drawer expanded. All other Org-mode files should keep their behavior that I manually have to expand drawers when I want to see their content. Is there a method to get this kind of behavior? Thanks! -- mail|git|SVN|photos|postings|SMS|phonecalls|RSS|CSV|XML to Org-mode: > get Memacs from https://github.com/novoid/Memacs < https://github.com/novoid/extract_pdf_annotations_to_orgmode + more on github ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Expanded property drawers as per file option 2013-05-28 14:21 Expanded property drawers as per file option Karl Voit @ 2013-05-28 14:40 ` Thorsten Jolitz 2013-05-28 14:45 ` Thorsten Jolitz 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Thorsten Jolitz @ 2013-05-28 14:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at> writes: > Hi! > > I could not find anything yet which says that it's possible (or not) > to define a file variable which enables PROPERTY drawers to be > expanded (only in this current file). > > My use case: I usually never store major meta-data in drawers. So I > like the default behavior with closed property drawers. Except in > my "contacts.org" where I store basic data of persons I want to see. > > Therefore, I would like to have these drawers expanded whenever I > expand the heading of a person. In other words: heading content > expanded -> property drawer expanded. All other Org-mode files > should keep their behavior that I manually have to expand drawers > when I want to see their content. > > Is there a method to get this kind of behavior? > > Thanks! This does the job, but maybe there is some inbuilt functionality too. ,------------------------------------- | (defun find-org-contracts () | (find-file "/path/to/contracts.org") | (show-all)) | | (find-org-contracts) `------------------------------------- -- cheers, Thorsten ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Expanded property drawers as per file option 2013-05-28 14:21 Expanded property drawers as per file option Karl Voit 2013-05-28 14:40 ` Thorsten Jolitz @ 2013-05-28 14:45 ` Thorsten Jolitz 2013-05-28 14:58 ` Thorsten Jolitz 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Thorsten Jolitz @ 2013-05-28 14:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at> writes: > Hi! > > I could not find anything yet which says that it's possible (or not) > to define a file variable which enables PROPERTY drawers to be > expanded (only in this current file). > > My use case: I usually never store major meta-data in drawers. So I > like the default behavior with closed property drawers. Except in > my "contacts.org" where I store basic data of persons I want to see. > > Therefore, I would like to have these drawers expanded whenever I > expand the heading of a person. In other words: heading content > expanded -> property drawer expanded. All other Org-mode files > should keep their behavior that I manually have to expand drawers > when I want to see their content. > > Is there a method to get this kind of behavior? or maybe better an interactive version: ,------------------------------------- | (defun find-org-contracts () | (interactive "fFile: ") | (find-file "/path/to/contracts.org") | (show-all)) | | M-x find-org-contracts `------------------------------------- -- cheers, Thorsten ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Expanded property drawers as per file option 2013-05-28 14:45 ` Thorsten Jolitz @ 2013-05-28 14:58 ` Thorsten Jolitz 2013-05-29 4:31 ` Feng Shu 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Thorsten Jolitz @ 2013-05-28 14:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Thorsten Jolitz <tjolitz@gmail.com> writes: > Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at> writes: > >> Hi! >> >> I could not find anything yet which says that it's possible (or not) >> to define a file variable which enables PROPERTY drawers to be >> expanded (only in this current file). >> >> My use case: I usually never store major meta-data in drawers. So I >> like the default behavior with closed property drawers. Except in >> my "contacts.org" where I store basic data of persons I want to see. >> >> Therefore, I would like to have these drawers expanded whenever I >> expand the heading of a person. In other words: heading content >> expanded -> property drawer expanded. All other Org-mode files >> should keep their behavior that I manually have to expand drawers >> when I want to see their content. >> >> Is there a method to get this kind of behavior? sorry, that was a bit too hurried, I think this one is what you might need: ,------------------------------------- | (defun find-org-contracts () | (interactive) | (find-file "/path/to/contracts.org") | (show-all)) | | M-x find-org-contracts `------------------------------------- -- cheers, Thorsten ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Expanded property drawers as per file option 2013-05-28 14:58 ` Thorsten Jolitz @ 2013-05-29 4:31 ` Feng Shu 2013-05-29 20:09 ` Karl Voit 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Feng Shu @ 2013-05-29 4:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Thorsten Jolitz <tjolitz@gmail.com> writes: > Thorsten Jolitz <tjolitz@gmail.com> writes: > >> Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at> writes: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> I could not find anything yet which says that it's possible (or not) >>> to define a file variable which enables PROPERTY drawers to be >>> expanded (only in this current file). >>> >>> My use case: I usually never store major meta-data in drawers. So I >>> like the default behavior with closed property drawers. Except in >>> my "contacts.org" where I store basic data of persons I want to see. >>> >>> Therefore, I would like to have these drawers expanded whenever I >>> expand the heading of a person. In other words: heading content >>> expanded -> property drawer expanded. All other Org-mode files >>> should keep their behavior that I manually have to expand drawers >>> when I want to see their content. >>> >>> Is there a method to get this kind of behavior? > > sorry, that was a bit too hurried, I think this one is what you might > need: > > ,------------------------------------- > | (defun find-org-contracts () > | (interactive) > | (find-file "/path/to/contracts.org") > | (show-all)) > | > | M-x find-org-contracts > `------------------------------------- I use: #+STARTUP: showeverything -- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Expanded property drawers as per file option 2013-05-29 4:31 ` Feng Shu @ 2013-05-29 20:09 ` Karl Voit 2013-05-29 22:32 ` Thorsten Jolitz 2013-06-01 6:13 ` Carsten Dominik 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Karl Voit @ 2013-05-29 20:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode * Feng Shu <tumashu@gmail.com> wrote: > Thorsten Jolitz <tjolitz@gmail.com> writes: > >> Thorsten Jolitz <tjolitz@gmail.com> writes: >> >> ,------------------------------------- >> | (defun find-org-contracts () >> | (interactive) >> | (find-file "/path/to/contracts.org") >> | (show-all)) >> | >> | M-x find-org-contracts >> `------------------------------------- > > I use: > #+STARTUP: showeverything Those two methods result in expanded properties, yes. However, I obviously was not precise enough to explain my requirement which is more complicated than "showeverything". I would like to have all headings folded when I open the file (as it is now). Then I navigate to a heading of a person by using text search or arrow keys and TAB (to expand hierarchies). On the heading of the "target" person, I want TAB to expand also the properties drawer, not only the content of the heading with properties collapsed. Example: I start with contacts.org like this: * job * family I go to "job" and expand using TAB: * job * Bob * Peter * Susan * family After that, I navigate to "Peter" and press TAB once again to expand the heading of Peter *and* its property drawer all together (only for "Peter"): * job * Bob * Peter :PROPERTIES: :EMAIL: peter@example.com :COMPANY: Acme :ADDRESS: Hiscity, hisstreet 42 :END: - met him at conference XY in 2009 - works in the field of foobar * Susan * family The desired difference to my current situation is, that I do not have to navigate on the PROPERTY line and press TAB to open the drawer for email, company name, address, and so forth. Usual behavior: PROPERTY drawer stays collapsed when its corresponding heading gets expanded. My wish: PROPERTY drawer gets collapsed when its corresponding heading gets expanded. I know that this is a very specific requirement and it spares me only one positioning effort followed by TAB. However, for contacts it would eliminate one annoyance for my work flow :-) Thanks for your comments, thoughts, tipps! -- mail|git|SVN|photos|postings|SMS|phonecalls|RSS|CSV|XML to Org-mode: > get Memacs from https://github.com/novoid/Memacs < https://github.com/novoid/extract_pdf_annotations_to_orgmode + more on github ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Expanded property drawers as per file option 2013-05-29 20:09 ` Karl Voit @ 2013-05-29 22:32 ` Thorsten Jolitz 2013-06-01 6:13 ` Carsten Dominik 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Thorsten Jolitz @ 2013-05-29 22:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at> writes: > * Feng Shu <tumashu@gmail.com> wrote: >> Thorsten Jolitz <tjolitz@gmail.com> writes: >> >>> Thorsten Jolitz <tjolitz@gmail.com> writes: >>> >>> ,------------------------------------- >>> | (defun find-org-contracts () >>> | (interactive) >>> | (find-file "/path/to/contracts.org") >>> | (show-all)) >>> | >>> | M-x find-org-contracts >>> `------------------------------------- >> >> I use: >> #+STARTUP: showeverything > > Those two methods result in expanded properties, yes. > > However, I obviously was not precise enough to explain my > requirement which is more complicated than "showeverything". > > I would like to have all headings folded when I open the file (as it > is now). Then I navigate to a heading of a person by using text > search or arrow keys and TAB (to expand hierarchies). For me both 'show-entry' and 'show-children' open the property drawer of a headline. I actually use these two for visibility cycling: ,------------------------------------------------------- | [From `outline-mode-easy-bindings'] | | (defun outline-show-more () | (interactive) | (when (outline-on-heading-p) | (cond ((and (outline-subheadings-p) | (not (outline-subheadings-visible-p))) | (show-children)) | ((and (not (outline-subheadings-p)) | (not (outline-body-visible-p))) | (show-subtree)) | ((and (outline-body-p) | (not (outline-body-visible-p))) | (show-entry)) | (t | (show-subtree))))) | | | (defun outline-hide-more () | (interactive) | (when (outline-on-heading-p) | (cond ((and (outline-body-p) | (outline-body-visible-p)) | (hide-entry) | (hide-leaves)) | (t | (hide-subtree))))) `------------------------------------------------------- With these bindings: ,--------------------------------------------------------------------- | (let ((map outline-mode-map)) | (outshine-define-key-with-fallback | map (kbd "M-<left>") (outline-hide-more) (outline-on-heading-p)) | (outshine-define-key-with-fallback | map (kbd "M-<right>") (outline-show-more) (outline-on-heading-p)) [...] `--------------------------------------------------------------------- and these docs: ,--------------------------------------------------------------------------- | <M-right> runs the command outline-show-more, which is an interactive Lisp | function in `outshine.el'. | | It is bound to <M-right>. | | (outline-show-more) `--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ,-------------------------------------------------------------------- | outline-hide-more is an interactive Lisp function in `outshine.el'. | | (outline-hide-more) `-------------------------------------------------------------------- -- cheers, Thorsten ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Expanded property drawers as per file option 2013-05-29 20:09 ` Karl Voit 2013-05-29 22:32 ` Thorsten Jolitz @ 2013-06-01 6:13 ` Carsten Dominik 2013-06-01 16:30 ` Karl Voit 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2013-06-01 6:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: news1142; +Cc: emacs-orgmode On 29.5.2013, at 22:09, Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at> wrote: > * Feng Shu <tumashu@gmail.com> wrote: >> Thorsten Jolitz <tjolitz@gmail.com> writes: >> >>> Thorsten Jolitz <tjolitz@gmail.com> writes: >>> >>> ,------------------------------------- >>> | (defun find-org-contracts () >>> | (interactive) >>> | (find-file "/path/to/contracts.org") >>> | (show-all)) >>> | >>> | M-x find-org-contracts >>> `------------------------------------- >> >> I use: >> #+STARTUP: showeverything > > Those two methods result in expanded properties, yes. > > However, I obviously was not precise enough to explain my > requirement which is more complicated than "showeverything" > > > I would like to have all headings folded when I open the file (as it > is now). Then I navigate to a heading of a person by using text > search or arrow keys and TAB (to expand hierarchies). Hi, an imperfect solution that might work for you anyway is to create a local version of `org-cycle-hook' and remove `org-cycle-hide-drawers' from the value of this variable. This is imperfect because org-cycle-hide-drawers is also called sometimes explicitly, for example after moving a subtree. But it will cause drawers to stay open after TAB. To try this, make the following line the first line of your file: # -*- mode: org; org-cycle-hook: (org-cycle-hide-archived-subtrees org-cycle-hide-inline-tasks org-cycle-show-empty-lines org-optimize-window-after-visibility-change) -*- Then kill the buffer and visit it again. Check the value of `org-cycle-hook' with `C-h v', you should see that the variable has a local value in this buffer. If you then press TAB twice on"Peter", the drawer will be open. Hope this helps. - Carsten > > On the heading of the "target" person, I want TAB to expand also the > properties drawer, not only the content of the heading with > properties collapsed. > > > Example: > > I start with contacts.org like this: > > * job > * family > > I go to "job" and expand using TAB: > > * job > * Bob > * Peter > * Susan > * family > > After that, I navigate to "Peter" and press TAB once again to expand > the heading of Peter *and* its property drawer all together (only > for "Peter"): > > * job > * Bob > * Peter > :PROPERTIES: > :EMAIL: peter@example.com > :COMPANY: Acme > :ADDRESS: Hiscity, hisstreet 42 > :END: > > - met him at conference XY in 2009 > - works in the field of foobar > > * Susan > * family > > > The desired difference to my current situation is, that I do not > have to navigate on the PROPERTY line and press TAB to open the > drawer for email, company name, address, and so forth. > > > Usual behavior: PROPERTY drawer stays collapsed when its > corresponding heading gets expanded. > > My wish: PROPERTY drawer gets collapsed when its corresponding > heading gets expanded. > > > I know that this is a very specific requirement and it spares me > only one positioning effort followed by TAB. However, for contacts > it would eliminate one annoyance for my work flow :-) > > Thanks for your comments, thoughts, tipps! > > > -- > mail|git|SVN|photos|postings|SMS|phonecalls|RSS|CSV|XML to Org-mode: >> get Memacs from https://github.com/novoid/Memacs < > > https://github.com/novoid/extract_pdf_annotations_to_orgmode + more on github > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Expanded property drawers as per file option 2013-06-01 6:13 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2013-06-01 16:30 ` Karl Voit 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Karl Voit @ 2013-06-01 16:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Hi Carsten! * Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 29.5.2013, at 22:09, Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at> wrote: >> >> I would like to have all headings folded when I open the file (as it >> is now). Then I navigate to a heading of a person by using text >> search or arrow keys and TAB (to expand hierarchies). > > To try this, make the following line the first line of your file: > > # -*- mode: org; org-cycle-hook: (org-cycle-hide-archived-subtrees org-cycle-hide-inline-tasks org-cycle-show-empty-lines org-optimize-window-after-visibility-change) -*- > > Then kill the buffer and visit it again. Check the value of `org-cycle-hook' with `C-h v', you should see that the variable has a local value in this buffer. > > If you then press TAB twice on"Peter", the drawer will be open. Yes, this works as described. Imperfect but it fixes my issue with reasonable effort and functionality. And I also learned that I can "overwrite" functions with local file definitions. Quite handy. Vielen Dank und einen schönen Gruß aus der schönen Steiermark! -- mail|git|SVN|photos|postings|SMS|phonecalls|RSS|CSV|XML to Org-mode: > get Memacs from https://github.com/novoid/Memacs < https://github.com/novoid/extract_pdf_annotations_to_orgmode + more on github ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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