Re: Re: org-info.js

[Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>]

On May 19, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Dan Davison wrote:

> Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com> writes:
>
>> Dan Davison <davison@stats.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> If I'm viewing the manual with Sebastian's org-info javascript info
>>> emulation, and I'm on node 13 of the manual, what key do I press  
>>> to get
>>> to 13.1?
>>>
>>> I wish I were better with info. My understanding is that I would use
>>> space or ] in emacs.
>>>
>>
>> In emacs info, <SPACE> advances down the imaginary scroll, so it  
>> may or
>> may not get you to the next (sub)section, depending on the length  
>> of the
>> current section and the size of your screen. ']' will go to the next
>> node in a depth-first traversal, 'n' will get you to the next node  
>> in a
>> level-traversal (always assuming that the relevant nodes exist).
>> Numeric arguments will get you to the relevant subsection (i.e. if  
>> you
>> are in sec. 13 and press 6, you'll end up in subsection 13.6 -  
>> assuming
>> that it exists), whereas 'n' and 'p' will get you to the next/ 
>> previous
>> heading at the same level and 'u' will go up a level.
>>
>> Now I'm on much shakier ground (iow, I don't necessarily know what  
>> I'm
>> talking about), but I think `n' does a depth-first traversal, so it  
>> will
>> go from 13 to 13.1 - the question is how to go from 13 to 14 without
>> visiting all the 13.x... in-between:
>
> Actually, no, n goes from 13 to 14 (at least in google-chrome). But  
> I'm
> with you -- it seems to behave differently in
>
> http://orgmode.org/worg/code/org-info-js
>
> There n does the depth-first traversal you describe (and that is the
> behaviour I'm looking for).
>
> So
> - how to get the full traversal in the org manual?

> - why is there different behaviour between the manual and the worg  
> page?


Because the manual is created by texinfo, Worg is published by Org-mode.
I also would love to have a depth-first way to travel in the manual -  
but I don't know how.

I *am* hacking the html manual pages already (UTILITIES/mansplit.pl)  
to get the sidebar toc in there - the same program could maybe also  
hack some of those keys, I guess.  But I don't know how.  And there  
are issues of what people expect.  I love it that Sebastian has made a  
way to travel depth-first, but I also think that people who are used  
to read texinfo manpages like to have consistent keys....

- Carsten

>
> Dan
>
>
>> I thought I would go UP to the TOC
>> and then TAB to or click on the next section, but the UP link does  
>> not
>> seem to do what I think it should do (go up one level in the  
>> hierarchy -
>> at least that seems to be the case in the org-info pages:
>> http://orgmode.org/worg/code/org-info-js). I'm not saying there is no
>> way: I just didn't find one after a few minutes of fooling around.
>>
>> HTH,
>> Nick
>>
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- Carsten