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From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
To: Sebastien Vauban <sva-news@mygooglest.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Outline cycling does not preserve point's position
Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 08:16:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6AF733B5-9CCC-40B4-83E5-1A640A2FBC8C@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86vc2cqvnb.fsf@somewhere.org>

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Hi Sebastien,

On 7.9.2013, at 21:28, Sebastien Vauban <sva-news@mygooglest.com> wrote:

> Hi Carsten,
> 
> Carsten Dominik wrote:
>> On 7.9.2013, at 14:11, "Sebastien Vauban" <sva-news@mygooglest.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Since a little while, I've observed that point's position is not anymore
>>> preserved when cycling buffer's view with S-TAB.
>>> 
>>> Sometimes, point stays where it was (even when in the body of entries);
>>> sometimes, not.
>>> 
>>> See http://screencast.com/t/1sr6Lezk:
>>> 
>>> - when on the first letter of "From", in that example, point's location is
>>> preserved;
>>> 
>>> - when on the second letter of it, point's location is lost: new position is
>>> at the end of the level 1 parent...
>>> 
>>> That's very annoying when you want to just look at your tree structure, but
>>> don't expect to land somewhere else by doing so.
>> 
>> you say "since a little while".  Have you tried to bisect?
> 
> Not yet. I have many Chinese plates turning at the moment, but I'll try to do
> that very soon. And I have other problems to report or bisect:
> 
> - not possible anymore to "cut" a code snippet in two parts with C-c C-v C-d
>  (demarcate block); already reported (without bisect), no answer;
> 
> - not possible anymore to use C-a or C-e in code blocks to select regions; not
>  reported yet, though I reported similar problems with C-arrows (apparently
>  due to a change which is now officially part of 8.1). IMO, that renders
>  editing of code block in the original buffer much more annoying.

I have asked Eric about this.

> 
>> Or has it been like this always?
> 
> In my mind, this did work before; or, at least, in (many) more cases than it
> now does.
> 
>> Also, I am not convinced that staying in invisible places is the
>> right behavior at all.  Even though I would agree that three S-TAB
>> in a row should be a null operation.
> 
> At the very least, we could agree that point should always be part of the
> entry we were on; so never go up to the *parent* entry.

I have fixed this now, point does now completely stay put during global cycling.

> 
>> May be it would be better to use something like
>> 
>>   (org-display-outline-path nil t)
>> 
>> to see where you are?
> 
> I know where I am: I'm using that. But, sometimes (in fact, often), I want to
> see the rest of the entries (brothers, parents, etc.) in the outline view.
> 
> I simply expect to land back at the entry I was at, when having cycled
> 3 times.
> 
> Best regards,
>  Seb
> 
> -- 
> Sebastien Vauban


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  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-08  6:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-07 12:11 Outline cycling does not preserve point's position Sebastien Vauban
2013-09-07 14:17 ` Carsten Dominik
     [not found]   ` <BED1FBAA-8BB5-45D6-8328-11C0BB2DF015-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-07 19:28     ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-09-08  6:16       ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
2013-09-09  7:57         ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-09-08 11:03       ` Eric Schulte
2013-09-09  8:39         ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-09-08 16:23       ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-09  8:11         ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-09-09  8:13           ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-09  8:23             ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-09-09  8:27               ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-09  8:33                 ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-09-09  8:38                   ` Bastien
2013-09-09  9:05                     ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-09 11:32                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-09 11:49                         ` Bastien
2013-09-09 15:27                           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-09 14:23                         ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-09 15:16                           ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-09 15:41                           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-09 17:42                             ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-09-10  3:47                             ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-10  6:03                               ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-10  6:48                                 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2013-09-10  7:32                                 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-10  7:53                                   ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-10  7:58                                     ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-10  8:16                                       ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-10  8:50                                         ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-10  9:02                                           ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-10  9:50                                             ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-10 16:33                                               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-10 18:35                                                 ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-10 18:39                                                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-10 19:22                                                     ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-10 19:40                                                       ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-10 19:52                                                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-10 18:58                                                 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-10 19:07                                                   ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-10 19:48                                                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-10 20:13                                                     ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-10 20:29                                                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-10 21:08                                                     ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-11 12:24                                                       ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-12  6:54                                                         ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-12  9:11                                                           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-12  9:28                                                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-12  9:47                                                               ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-11  2:49                                                     ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-11 11:09                                                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-11 11:34                                                         ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-11 15:19                                                           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-11 15:40                                                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-11 15:31                                                         ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-11 15:40                                                           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-11 16:14                                                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-11 20:01                                                               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-11 22:11                                                                 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-12  6:43                                                                 ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-12  9:07                                                                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-12 10:12                                                                     ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-12  7:17                                                                 ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-09-13 10:57                                                                 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-13 22:29                                                                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-14  5:33                                                                     ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-14 17:16                                                                     ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-15  4:39                                                                       ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-10 20:16                                         ` Samuel Wales
2013-09-10  5:06                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-11  3:57                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-11 15:47                               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-09  8:38                   ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-09 11:30                     ` Nicolas Goaziou

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