From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id onJ0MFo46l/xNgAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 19:56:10 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id 4BsKLFo46l9BVAAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 19:56:10 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7051394030E for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 19:56:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:42176 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ktyci-00012h-Ro for larch@yhetil.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 14:56:08 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49042) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ktycJ-00012T-4M; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 14:55:43 -0500 Received: from grinta.net ([109.74.203.128]:34214) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ktycF-0005xa-TM; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 14:55:42 -0500 Received: from black.local (p4fe7185a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [79.231.24.90]) (Authenticated sender: daniele) by grinta.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5B2BEE0F23; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 19:55:36 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=grinta.net; s=2020; t=1609185336; bh=f6iQEUrPR4dujN3ktpOv1mipwAFd8WvmFNFu3mV/JgU=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=kr0mkSZZwazH823rBs/YJ3mY3YDuL92swUS0lFtbDEtncfsy6B3emRLQw6qKXBuHf xBd9DMFjGvXxtzdaUGj2o66bnbgy+7VtsfSsIM6yrCPaTiH8DQyILv2/ZFTEE1Ee9t GyBIGgoJ2WVbPvcl7nQnUDOQk2T/cLxwlB1dviSCOjHFXgbVmso4Pbt8VwLAh3dAdj uTop99xJ8ecl6Fz5ObaB79bCx4JxVGn3cjjRn1jqqRya7uat5ytGNQZUcsShwAkHza pqWj9BypROmXJ6fiGHKmIorMYPz+Fx05+dWblTikhDHjocHNu1IelXKm8kI/Zr5XxE SnhGMybkUzvuA== Subject: Re: Microsoft Excel spreadsheet editing directly from within emacs. To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, Org-mode References: From: Daniele Nicolodi Message-ID: <69f2606a-105d-75e8-61aa-e4df82c9f445@grinta.net> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 20:55:34 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=109.74.203.128; envelope-from=daniele@grinta.net; helo=grinta.net X-Spam_score_int: -47 X-Spam_score: -4.8 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, NICE_REPLY_A=-2.698, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.32 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail (headers rsa verify failed) header.d=grinta.net header.s=2020 header.b=kr0mkSZZ; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 7051394030E X-Spam-Score: -1.32 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: p4NPYtMAuJ+V On 28/12/2020 20:36, Jean Louis wrote: > * Hongyi Zhao [2020-12-28 18:19]: >> Is it possible for me to edit Microsoft Excel spreadsheet directly >> from within emacs, especially utilizing the powerful capabilities of >> orgmode? > > You have high expectations but Emacs Org mode does not nearly replace > the capabilities of a dedicated spreadsheet. > > In comparison to all major known spreadsheets Org tables is not > powerful and not even comparable. Without specific details on which functionalities are not supported in Org tables, this advice is not useful. There are many use cases in which Org tables are superiors to spreadsheets, there are use cases where a dedicated spreadsheet application works better, and there are use cases where a spreadsheet is an horrible solution but whoever found themselves solving the problem didn't know better and hammered around till they got a spreadsheet to output what they wanted. In my personal experience, in the 80% of the cases where a spreadsheet has been used, it was the wrong tool for the job. Without knowing what is the problem at hand, it is impossible to know which solution is the more appropriate. Cheers, Dan