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Perhaps Juergen can do it? >>>=20 >>> Of course, I /could/ do this, but given the fact that you have = already >>> found out about /some/ internals wouldn't it be better a = macOS/NextStep >>> developer would look into this in the first place and hence write = the >>> report with some somre insight? >>=20 >> Unfortunately, there are no MacOS developers among Org mode = maintainers. >> I personally do not even have access to MacOS for testing. >>=20 >> Since you at least can test things on MacOS, it would be helpful if = you >> can create the recipe suitable for Emacs devs to reproduce the >> problem. They may also ask extra information from your MacOS. >>=20 >=20 > I see. Thanks for explaining. So, I will write a bug report that draws > on our discussion and send it to emacs-devel over the weekend. >=20 > My switch from Ventura to Sonoma shortly may make things more > complicated, as I cannot foresee in howmuch the two platforms differ > under the hood, but I'm afraid I cannot postpone the upgrade. A few years ago, I wrote a small package for pasting PNG and PDF into = org documents as attachments, which I still use: org-mac-image-paste: = https://github.com/jdtsmith/org-mac-image-paste.=20 With the recent work on yank-media I'm hopeful I can retire this tool = soon (see the bottom of that page). I found I could pull PDF data from = the clipboard via AppleScript (and display in the emacs-mac build using = its image-io backend), but had to use the pngpaste tool for PNG data. = PNG data are indeed included on the clipboard (=C2=ABclass PNGf=C2=BB), = and can be seen via AppleScript. The code for pngpaste might be informative: = https://github.com/jcsalterego/pngpaste/blob/main/pngpaste.m. --Apple-Mail=_A745C579-E914-4C9F-9DAE-19A4F2CA2614 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8

On Jun 6, 2024, at 4:41=E2=80=AFPM, Juergen Fenn = <jfenn@gmx.net> wrote:



Am 06.06.24 um = 17:17 Uhr schrieb Ihor Radchenko:
Juergen = Fenn <jfenn@gmx.net> writes:

Am = 06.06.24 um 08:20 Uhr schrieb Visuwesh:
Thanks for the analysis.  Given that Alan says = GNUStep cannot handle
non-text clipboard items, I cannot propose = anything myself.  It would be
nice if a Mac user can write a = report and send it to the Emacs
developers.  Perhaps Juergen can = do it?

Of course, I /could/ do this, but given the = fact that you have already
found out about /some/ internals wouldn't = it be better a macOS/NextStep
developer would look into this in the = first place and hence write the
report with some somre = insight?

Unfortunately, there are no MacOS = developers among Org mode maintainers.
I personally do not even have = access to MacOS for testing.

Since you at least can test things = on MacOS, it would be helpful if you
can create the recipe suitable = for Emacs devs to reproduce the
problem. They may also ask extra = information from your MacOS.


I see. Thanks for = explaining. So, I will write a bug report that draws
on our = discussion and send it to emacs-devel over the weekend.

My switch = from Ventura to Sonoma shortly may make things more
complicated, as I = cannot foresee in howmuch the two platforms differ
under the hood, = but I'm afraid I cannot postpone the = upgrade.

A few years ago, I = wrote a small package for pasting PNG and PDF into org documents as = attachments, which I still use: org-mac-image-paste:  https://github.co= m/jdtsmith/org-mac-image-paste. 

With = the recent work on yank-media I'm hopeful I can retire this tool soon = (see the bottom of that page).  I found I could pull PDF data from = the clipboard via AppleScript (and display in the emacs-mac build using = its image-io backend), but had to use the pngpaste tool for PNG data. =  PNG data are indeed included on the clipboard (=C2=ABclass = PNGf=C2=BB), and can be seen via = AppleScript.

The code for pngpaste might be = informative: http= s://github.com/jcsalterego/pngpaste/blob/main/pngpaste.m.

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