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Org cannot do much = about it without =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Ihor> hacking Emacs defaults. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=20 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> We=CA=BCre in agreement there. My point is that it=CA=BCs = not a bug (although I =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> guess you could ask for a feature to apply local/directory= variables =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> before applying the mode =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Ihor> It's not exactly a bug, but feature request to Emacs is= exactly what I =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Ihor> was implying. Right. My predictatron says it=CA=BCs unlikely to be greeted enthusiastically. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> , but in this case there=CA=BCs an easy =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> workaround). =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Ihor> I am not sure which workaround you are referring to. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Ihor> Setting org-startup-folded globally? On per-file basis?= the former is =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Ihor> global and will apply to broader scope than a directory= -local variable. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Ihor> The latter only works in a single file (and works inste= ad of file-local =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Ihor> variable). I was talking about #+STARTUP: (I=CA=BCm assuming #+SETUPFILE: also works, but I haven't tried it). Robert --=20 =20 ------=_Part_4593976_1694006232.1651707063161 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for the info,

I will look into reporting the issue with the emacs bug-tra= cker and for now use the per file "STARTUP:" option.

than= ks again

=20
=20
On Wednesday, May 4, 2022, 11:04:42 a.m. EDT, Robert Pl= uim <rpluim@gmail.com> wrote:


>>>>> On Wed, 04 May 2= 022 22:46:56 +0800, Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> said:

    Ihor> Ro= bert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> writes:
    Ihor> This is no different. org-startup-folded contro= ls loading of Org mode.
    Ihor> However, E= macs applies directory-local variables and file-local
&nb= sp;   Ihor> variables _after_ loading Org mode. Org cannot do much = about it without
    Ihor> hacking Emacs def= aults.
    >>
  &= nbsp; >> We=CA=BCre in agreement there. My point is that it=CA=BCs no= t a bug (although I
    >> guess you coul= d ask for a feature to apply local/directory variables
&n= bsp;   >> before applying the mode

    Ihor> It's not exactly a bug, but feature reques= t to Emacs is exactly what I
    Ihor> was i= mplying.

Right. My predictatron says i= t=CA=BCs unlikely to be greeted
enthusiastically.

    >> , but in this case the= re=CA=BCs an easy
    >> workaround).

    Ihor> I am not sure whic= h workaround you are referring to.
    Ihor>= Setting org-startup-folded globally? On per-file basis? the former is
    Ihor> global and will apply to broader scope= than a directory-local variable.
    Ihor> = The latter only works in a single file (and works instead of file-local
    Ihor> variable).

I was talking about #+STARTUP: (I=CA=BCm assuming #+SETUPFILE: a= lso works,
but I haven't tried it).


Robert
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