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And then defined in the timestamp? > Do you mean globally as in at the OS level or globally in org mode. If the latter, I disagree. The OS has this information and there is no need for org to repeat it (and possibly hav it wrong). I would go the other direction and say that the TZ should only be defined in an org file i it differs from the OS setting.