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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1621547562; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=Xyuy8EvSq/gYZtDaxqeqVkjVdXu3NrI0P1GBpFFdsH8=; b=Zz/n2srv5/N6UkpBF7R6aVNAOB3WrVEy7eZC9K4/0kkki32JKc2pZrGhZN7YLdAyUxCURF 3y1hZL3JKmqN3fhVndOnlTzImMFp//LzvzZktpZHnei6JGb7PsaRjRrm9Dof9/zGUPZF5I 6o8vqNlzMZ/rrYJul4rpRWh10/R5doTECP5gLN5tujTDsS18tQZI33yfG/giyJ+0fC0sPl ebo869JWmjVz70CNJezo1a6O+6pbo02GGxCW6NFlcCOXT+nsJ9kdQzAReINpNTDgugSeiH +LwJ0II1XCUuA5YupcfJeBMzPWVLUAd64fI6g0JzslSEuihjpDPwAfTR9o/Tyw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1621547562; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=kGN4v0abo5v6N3xIoHEdIgMrEBhxg8uWXKeOfhkNc6VriOM0dAQWau6bgB1EbHdJ8qL4Kg nz/FVZlc/aGR6SeqChZmPo10q6Nz1Aso8FNd0vqZYlbSljI/cZuxKtTsiEYusZ1i7OTaTd LV6pzZtGC42HcCzjkzgFKv6TQsZJYLNakhg70F6dL6V8NI5iOrvT9fuBg70Czs5qfMfDZd Vyl2boAFe8JpaUE9CjI2We4sAmBzcOQOVLDR9d+df9YX8u4ZFIb2+zMmJawj4LEG5LUzQj uro2W4z/FZfeiUtBOKvbegvKuGDpwFtqddRzynBki+Y4BRT+KnjL3SsL/xL1qQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=mailbox.org header.s=mail20150812 header.b=U77Wmpfe; dkim=pass header.d=mailbox.org header.s=mail20150812 header.b=ioxPOGg+; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=mailbox.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.14 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=mailbox.org header.s=mail20150812 header.b=U77Wmpfe; dkim=pass header.d=mailbox.org header.s=mail20150812 header.b=ioxPOGg+; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=mailbox.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: A2C4626406 X-Spam-Score: -3.14 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 8ASfgC6x7hcu Hi, Am 20.05.2021 um 19:06 schrieb Nicolas Goaziou: > Hello, > > "Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > >> On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 9:57 AM Denis Maier wrote: >> >>>>> I'm not really sure we need bare substyles at all. At least in biblatex >>>>> it's the basis for the other commands. >>>> >>>> Though see my followup message on autocite config. >>>> >>>> Does that change this discussion? >>> >>> Why? >> >> I put it in the form of a question, because I'm not sure, but ... >> >> 1. I wasn't sure Nicolas was aware of this config option, nor how one >> would configure it currently (but it seems necessary in general) > > There is `org-cite-biblatex-options' defcustom. Currently, it defaults > to nil, but you can set it to, e.g., "key=value,key2=value" if needed. > We can also change the default. Is there a way to use styles that aren't loaded via biblatex package options, but as distinct package. E.g., biblatex-chicago is loaded as \usepackage{biblatex-chicago}. Internally, the package will then load biblatex on its own. Denis