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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1652746160; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=P3XHBQyJkQg14ni+2fiTmw9xW8PeVDHiQ6hax0/K0UI=; b=ZicBhbGYGSH2lNtYtTtV5o9aQ1uCb4V//4ZCo5zN+ZiYw1B++2qGxboyWGz1EiXDvXTtx3 tjzicOsvcgFDg53uOd889/sETbxfSQuv9F8Gtm3f4x0MizqSwAecPL1eKhy9HlyWLKNm1Y WR5ibA8xt64NkK0LNWS2VpoN/uAFpVmCFI+koDkVzHgKzhH0LA95PRdASuIDf7gTxfvpC5 xv0duUOFiHgOCaqxXIb5kdFC6yRXvktvt2iUgXVKFESTQoWMLfLOHudgPeBRPlrCI2k7JH FhMYWkiAePGtPdTBxp9regaYPtva++ihpUqsQ+npsBZYIPJV9H0n3x1O7LXLvQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1652746160; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=goX87C7a98Oe4CDg2/ltpAzUshvCXTrGKJ2ynrtwoMTy6+WvmcTsS0yWIXtKksCco54hj0 gI1Kry7hKXUmeR8GKYYvueJsSFFlnj8X/LmaYapHczKFU1Tzu61TSjUFJl3H08tvLU+TGE 92e0+p8pOf1AhQIcxNbBYrppJ3CZ8egwzZp3RuyF6QTJp4LcylVGY4oPGmpGrg4K5bV8QV Jkw8QJ1kNGoDTo2ylmMiwTGphypq9w1BL9tB81aBJ3LFtJ5rZPVwdH+qszaONTjYK3sS1z DpFDH6tbh5F3fzXGYS0E4+3Fb2UAFud5YAD9Sfd1Ijy5Mti1zY9PDPF9E1mWZA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.83 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 3C91F36D0A X-Spam-Score: -2.83 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: CVtbSjCxMEsD ------1J3QWQA7NW58KHYVN6QGV0ZRR0S8Q6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for your suggestions=2E I got to many books and articles for a table, but using tables for statist= ics could be usefull=2E :) Le 17 mai 2022 01:28:47 GMT+02:00, William Denton a =C3= =A9crit=C2=A0: >On 16 May 2022, S=C3=A9bastien Gendre wrote: > >> My goals are to: >> * List books and articles I want to read >> * Track books I have to buy and which I already own >> * Track books and articles I have read >> * Take notes on books I have read >>=20 >> The following is what I plan to do=2E >>=20 >> The idea is to use an Org-mode heading for each book and the >> properties of the books become the ones of the Org-mode heading=2E The >> synopsis of the book can be in the body of the heading=2E > >I use Org to track my reading, but keep less information, so a simple tab= le is enough=2E In 2015 I wrote up how it looked: > >https://www=2Emiskatonic=2Eorg/2015/01/01/reading-diary-in-org/ > >The basic annual reading list is still the same, but I'm doing a lot more= with the data now, using R to generate charts and other analysis=2E > >Your plan looks very much like something I saw on Planet Emacslife=C2=B9 = a week or two ago =2E=2E=2E but now I can't find it because it scrolled off= the bottom=2E Maybe someone else here saw it? Or is the one who wrote it= ? It was someone using properties to store information about the books and= then using a column view to display all the information in a table=2E > >Could you fit everything into a table? That's simpler than using propert= ies=2E But if you need lots of bibliographic detail, I guess that's the bes= t solution in Org=2E > >If you were willing to look outside Org then I'd recommend Zotero,=C2=B2 = which is designed to keep track of all that; there are Emacs tools to talk = to Zotero, or you could dump a BibTeX file and use Org's citation system=2E= If I were doing what you want to do, I'd keep basic lists in tables in Or= g, keep notes on books in structured headings grouped by subject and then c= hronological order, and use Zotero for bibliographic management=2E > >Good luck! Whatever you get started with, it'll be easy to refine and ad= apt in a month or six depending on what you need=2E > >Bill > >=C2=B9 https://planet=2Eemacslife=2Ecom/ >=C2=B2 https://www=2Ezotero=2Eorg/ > >-- >William Denton >https://www=2Emiskatonic=2Eorg/ >Librarian, artist and licensed private investigator=2E >Toronto, Canada ------1J3QWQA7NW58KHYVN6QGV0ZRR0S8Q6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for your suggestions=2E

I got to man= y books and articles for a table, but using tables for statistics could be = usefull=2E :)

Le 17 mai 2022 01:28:47 GMT= +02:00, William Denton <wtd@pobox=2Ecom> a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0: 
On 16 May 2022, S=C3=A9bastien Gendre w=
rote:

My goals are =
to:
 * List books and articles I want to read
 * Track books I have t=
o buy and which I already own
 * Track books and articles I have read * Take notes on books I have read

The following is what I plan to =
do=2E

The idea is to use an Org-mode heading for each book and theproperties of the books become the ones of the Org-mode heading=2E Thesynopsis of the book can be in the body of the heading=2E
=

I use Org to track my reading, but keep less information, so a simple t=
able is enough=2E  In 2015 I wrote up how it looked:

https://www=2E=
miskatonic=2Eorg/2015/01/01/reading-diary-in-org/

The basic annu=
al reading list is still the same, but I'm doing a lot more with the data n=
ow, using R to generate charts and other analysis=2E

Your plan looks=
 very much like something I saw on Planet Emacslife=C2=B9 a week or two ago=
 =2E=2E=2E but now I can't find it because it scrolled off the bottom=2E  M=
aybe someone else here saw it?  Or is the one who wrote it?  It was someone=
 using properties to store information about the books and then using a col=
umn view to display all the information in a table=2E

Could you fit =
everything into a table?  That's simpler than using properties=2E But if yo=
u need lots of bibliographic detail, I guess that's the best solution in Or=
g=2E

If you were willing to look outside Org then I'd recommend Zote=
ro,=C2=B2 which is designed to keep track of all that; there are Emacs tool=
s to talk to Zotero, or you could dump a BibTeX file and use Org's citation=
 system=2E  If I were doing what you want to do, I'd keep basic lists in ta=
bles in Org, keep notes on books in structured headings grouped by subject =
and then chronological order, and use Zotero for bibliographic management=
=2E

Good luck!  Whatever you get started with, it'll be easy to refi=
ne and adapt in a month or six depending on what you need=2E

Bill
=C2=B9 https://planet=2E=
emacslife=2Ecom/
=C2=B2 http=
s://www=2Ezotero=2Eorg/

--
William Denton
https://www=2Emiskatonic=2Eorg/
Libraria=
n, artist and licensed private investigator=2E
Toronto, Canada
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