From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: GFDL Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 07:44:51 +0100 Message-ID: <58FF2382-A0A8-47E2-BEA0-8E88542C6638@gmail.com> References: <878v5wwr96.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <6D1B3E63-A3F0-447E-A1F4-12F8B3156DB9@gmail.com> <513BD73C.3050704@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33188) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UHrFE-0001ab-Jk for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 03:46:06 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UHrFC-0006fh-OR for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 03:46:04 -0400 Received: from mail-we0-x22b.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c03::22b]:44436) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UHrFC-0006fX-Hs for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 03:46:02 -0400 Received: by mail-we0-f171.google.com with SMTP id u54so114889wey.16 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:46:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <513BD73C.3050704@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Alan L Tyree Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi Alan, thanks for chiming in. As Achim quoted, the GFLD says that the license = should be in the document, but that makes the GFDL almost unfit for = anything below a book. I have asked RMS about this, and he says that the license should be = present in printed versions of the document. I find it very hard to = believe that this must be the case. It bothers me mostly for the guide, = where I did spend a lot of time to make it compact, and now something = like one fifth of it is license text. We may actually consider to = re-release the guide under a different license. Will try to find a solution here. - Carsten On 10.3.2013, at 01:43, Alan L Tyree wrote: > On 10/03/13 02:11, Carsten Dominik wrote: >>=20 >> On 9.3.2013, at 16:02, Achim Gratz wrote: >>=20 >>> Carsten Dominik writes: >>>> I am wondering, are we required to include the full text of the = GFDL >>>> in the manual? I find it a big waste of space and feed that a link >>>> should do. But I have not been able to find the rules that say = what >>>> needs to be included in a document distributed under GFDL? >>>=20 >>> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/fdl-howto >>> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/fdl-1.3.html >>>=20 >>> "To use this License in a document you have written, include a copy = of >>> the License in the document and put the following copyright and = license >>> notices just after the title page:[=85]" >>>=20 >>> I read this: If there's just one document, it must contain the = license >>> in full, if there are several that reference each other, it is = enough to >>> include it in the top-level document. >>=20 >> Yes it sounds like it. Thank you for the link. >>=20 >> I still think it is crazy to add these 8 pages to each time someone = prints it.... >>=20 >> Regards >>=20 >> - Carsten >>=20 > I also think it is crazy, and I don't think it is necessary. Although = the FSF might prefer you to include the whole licence, in my opinion = there is no need to do so. The manual is released under the GFDL and so = is subject to the terms of the license. >=20 > In my view, this statement from Creative Commons is accurate: >=20 > "How can I license my work? >=20 > There is no registration to use the Creative Commons licenses. >=20 > Licensing a work is as simple as selecting which of the six licenses = best meets your goals, and then marking your work in some way so that = others know that you have chosen to release the work under the terms of = that license." >=20 > The important part here is that "others know", that is, it must be = very clear that the manual is released subject to the GFDL. As a = courtesy, a link to the GFDL or including a copy as part of the package = might be nice. >=20 > Alan >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Alan L Tyree http://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan > Tel: 04 2748 6206 sip:172385@iptel.org >=20 >=20