From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: pete phillips Subject: Re: depending TODOs, scheduling following TODOs automatically Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:45:26 +0100 Message-ID: <5715.1192128326@lap1.smtl.co.uk> References: <6dbd4d000710080626i52f0f0t9354addc33c0efee@mail.gmail.com> <20071008134353.GA10774@odin.demosthenes.org> <877ilxmimn.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <20071008202652.GA18426@atlantic.linksys.moosehall> <87k5pxnicj.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <8a4d082edbc607440d4f12604b2f6332@science.uva.nl> <18295.1192118022@lap1.smtl.co.uk> <20071011163712.GC6275@odin.demosthenes.org> <27900.1192122650@lap1.smtl.co.uk> <20071011175547.GD6275@odin.demosthenes.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ig32k-0002kq-LV for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:45:58 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ig32j-0002kM-9k for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:45:58 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ig32i-0002kH-Vw for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:45:57 -0400 Received: from mail.smtl.co.uk ([193.131.77.174] helo=mailhost.smtl.co.uk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ig32g-0006Dj-MO for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:45:56 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.smtl.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C7964CAF for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:45:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.smtl.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ktinga.smtl.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20572-02 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:45:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from lap1.smtl.co.uk (phillips22.free-online.co.uk [84.92.108.4]) by mailhost.smtl.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7061F64CA9 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:45:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from lap1.smtl.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lap1.smtl.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id B85F31F81D1 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:45:27 +0100 (BST) In-reply-to: <20071011175547.GD6275@odin.demosthenes.org> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >>>>> "Russell" =3D=3D Russell Adams writes: Russell> It isn't necessarily. I'm just pointing out it's likely to Russell> grow as more folks use it for larger lists. After all, most Russell> PM software just maintains a specialized kind of list. Russell> Yes I've looked at task juggler, and was impressed, but its Russell> overkill for what I need. (its also GUI!) Nah. It *has* a GUI, but underneath it is text based. I've run a few projects with it, and I know it uses text. The structure is very simple. From the Tutorial: Chapter 4. Tutorial: Your First Project We have mentioned already that TaskJuggler uses plain text =EF=AC=81les= that describe the project to schedule it. As you will see now, the syntax of these =EF=AC=81les is easy to understand and very intuitive. I doubt it's overkill. The nice thing about task juggler is that you can just use as much as you need. I have used it for some large projects (but, like Carsten, only for the initial planning and resource allocation phase).=20 I genuinely think that if there is a band of org-moders (hmmm we could do with a cooler collective noun I think ?) who need PM functionality, then a combination of org-mode and TJ with some perl glue would be pretty good.=20 Russell> I think the key here is that Org needs some PM-like Russell> functionality, but I certainly wouldn't advocate trying to Russell> make Org a full PM. Org is great for lists, notes, TODO's, Russell> etc. Ever try to take freeform notes in MS Project? ;] Nope. I don't use MS to start with. ;-) Also, when using TJ, I was also able to make notes in emacs (because I was coding the TJ files in emacs).=20 Anyway, this horse is flogged to death! If your experience of TJ is only the GUI, I'd seriously recommend a look at the command line mode. The nice thing about using org-mode with other programmes is that it tends to conform to the UNIX philosophy: "Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a universal interface." Pete