From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Hauke Rehfeld Subject: =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IFtPVF0gQSBuZXcgd2ViIGJyb3dzZXLigL0=?= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 10:45:38 +0200 Message-ID: <570E0732.9080203@haukerehfeld.de> References: <87potzvlp0.fsf@mbork.pl> <8760vqvem7.fsf@mbork.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms050305030504050601010706" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42233) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aqGQv-0006b9-6W for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 04:45:58 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aqGQr-0003Up-4w for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 04:45:57 -0400 Received: from nsmtp.uni-koblenz.de ([141.26.64.14]:35008) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aqGQq-0003Uj-RS for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 04:45:53 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nsmtp.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5336D22DC5A for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 10:45:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nsmtp.uni-koblenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nsmtp.uni-koblenz.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z48QDdA0PcLM for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 10:45:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de (deliver.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.15]) by nsmtp.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 10:45:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.7] (x590e404f.dyn.telefonica.de [89.14.64.79]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E881B1A8328 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 10:45:49 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <8760vqvem7.fsf@mbork.pl> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." 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Cheers, Hauke On 09/04/16 08:09, Marcin Borkowski wrote: > > On 2016-04-08, at 22:00, Adam Porter wrote: > >> Marcin Borkowski mbork.pl> writes: >> >>> https://vivaldi.com/ >>> >>> Did anyone hear about it? Any thoughts/experiences? "Taking notes >>> while browsing" seems to be something close to org-capture, no? >>> Keyboard-driven might mean either vim-like or emacs-like bindings, or= >>> (hopefully) configurable ones. I, for one, would like to try it out,= >>> though I do not have too high hopes. >> >> It looks interesting, but it's not free software, so I have no interes= t >> myself. Firefox/Iceweasel has been serving me well since before it wa= s >> Firefox, and Pentadactyl has been my primary UI to it for a long time.= I >> don't feel like Mozilla is taking it in a good direction anymore, but = if it >> ever gets too bad, there's Iceweasel, and there's Pale Moon (which has= >> committed to "classic" Firefox extension APIs and UI), and there are o= ther >> alternatives like Conkeror, uzbl, etc. > > Thanks for the info. While I'm not a fervent supporter of free softwar= e > like many people here, I rather like the idea, and in fact it didn't > occur to me that this browser could be closed-source. (I do understand= > that "closed-source" is not the opposite of "free as in FSF", but > I wouldn't find it surprising if that software were non-free, while it > being closed-source - which apparently it is - is astonishing for me.) > >> Even if you don't care about free software, Vivaldi is made by former = Opera >> devs, so how do we know they aren't just repeating a cycle? It could = go the >> same direction Opera went and need to be rebooted again. As long as i= t's >> proprietary, that's a risk its users will always face. > > I'm not an Opera user, so please enlighten me: what was wrong with it? > (The only info about Opera I have is from one of my friends, who liked > it a lot a few years ago.) > >> My two cents. :) > > Thanks for your input, > --------------ms050305030504050601010706 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgEFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCC CfgwggSvMIIDl6ADAgECAhEA4CPLFRKDU4mtYW56VGdrITANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQsFADBvMQsw CQYDVQQGEwJTRTEUMBIGA1UEChMLQWRkVHJ1c3QgQUIxJjAkBgNVBAsTHUFkZFRydXN0IEV4 dGVybmFsIFRUUCBOZXR3b3JrMSIwIAYDVQQDExlBZGRUcnVzdCBFeHRlcm5hbCBDQSBSb290 MB4XDTE0MTIyMjAwMDAwMFoXDTIwMDUzMDEwNDgzOFowgZsxCzAJBgNVBAYTAkdCMRswGQYD VQQIExJHcmVhdGVyIE1hbmNoZXN0ZXIxEDAOBgNVBAcTB1NhbGZvcmQxGjAYBgNVBAoTEUNP 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